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Appeal Denied Refugee case: Need answers please

mimi263

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Hey can someone answer this for me please: We got word from my husbands lawyer his appeal for his refugee
Case was denied, we sent in our inland sponsorship application in December and received the AOR in January, my question is what can we expect to happen next?

Really appreciate the help!
 

Mrembo

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mimi263 said:
Hey can someone answer this for me please: We got word from my husbands lawyer his appeal for his refugee
Case was denied, we sent in our inland sponsorship application in December and received the AOR in January, my question is what can we expect to happen next?

Really appreciate the help!
Hi,given you've applied for sponsorship,they'll probably wait for the out come of first stage,if it's approved,then your hubby can stay and wait out the second stage in Canada!!CIC prides it self in keeping families together after all!-Good luck and I pray that your wishes come true ;)
 

Simon88

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Feb 18, 2013
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14-09-2012
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15-08-2012
AOR Received.
01-12-2012
Med's Done....
15-08-2012
LANDED..........
10-06-2013
My wife was in the same position as you, although we sent our application waaaaaaayyyy later after she was denied. Yesterday we just got our approval in principle and it was an amazing feeling. So here is what you can expect:

About the denied status:

- After denial of the appeal, your husband would be presented with the PRRA (Pre-Removal Assessment). He has 15 days after being presented with the PRRA to apply. This basically assesses the amount of risk to his life if he were deported back to his country. This usually takes 6-8 months to process and get a result. This assessment has 99% failure rate. So don't count on this to get PR. You should take this only to extend his stay to give time for the sponsorship to get through first stage approval of the sponsorship.

- If he does not take the PRRA, he would technically have 30 days to leave the country.

- The problem with taking the PRRA is that most probably if he would want to come back in the country, he would need to get an ARC (Authorization to Return to Canada) because his order of departure would automatically become a deportation order. So you can imagine, Outland Sponsorship (1/2 yr) + ARC (1yr) = 1.5 years at least to come back.

- If he does not leave after the given date of departure AFTER the PRRA result has been given, you can expect that the person never comes back again. This is one of the reason why people don't take the PRRA. But in your case you have a Sponsorship happening. PRRA will help you buy some time, which is what we have done.

About Sponsorship:

1) Send your sponsorship
2) Letter/email indicating that they got your application have been received. (AOR)
3) Letter/email indicating that you need to apply for CSQ (In QC only)
4) Letter/email indicating that you are eligible to sponsor. (AIP) With this, CIC will most probably not deport him.
5) Letter/email indicating that there have been a decision made. (DM)
6) The rest is pretty smooth.

I am no lawyer, but I am currently going through this dreadful process. I really wish that I can help others because the wait causes a lot of anxiety.

Good luck to you!
 

gsize

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""CIC prides it self in keeping families together after all! ""


lol....thanks for the laugh !
 

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Corona,please...
 

gsize

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File Transfer...
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Med's Done....
04/2013 (second time)
Passport Req..
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how did you know ? lol
 

Mrembo

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Apr 17, 2012
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Visa Office......
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Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Nov 16th 2012
Doc's Request.
Jan 9th 2012
AOR Received.
Jan 9th 2012
Med's Request
Not yet
Med's Done....
2010
Interview........
Not yet
Passport Req..
Not yet
VISA ISSUED...
Not yet
LANDED..........
Can't wait
gsize said:
""CIC prides it self in keeping families together after all! ""


lol....thanks for the laugh !
Well,isn't that what they say?lol :D
 

Mrembo

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Apr 17, 2012
328
7
Manitoba
Category........
Visa Office......
Vegreville
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Nov 16th 2012
Doc's Request.
Jan 9th 2012
AOR Received.
Jan 9th 2012
Med's Request
Not yet
Med's Done....
2010
Interview........
Not yet
Passport Req..
Not yet
VISA ISSUED...
Not yet
LANDED..........
Can't wait
Simon88 said:
My wife was in the same position as you, although we sent our application waaaaaaayyyy later after she was denied. Yesterday we just got our approval in principle and it was an amazing feeling. So here is what you can expect:

About the denied status:

- After denial of the appeal, your husband would be presented with the PRRA (Pre-Removal Assessment). He has 15 days after being presented with the PRRA to apply. This basically assesses the amount of risk to his life if he were deported back to his country. This usually takes 6-8 months to process and get a result. This assessment has 99% failure rate. So don't count on this to get PR. You should take this only to extend his stay to give time for the sponsorship to get through first stage approval of the sponsorship.

- If he does not take the PRRA, he would technically have 30 days to leave the country.

- The problem with taking the PRRA is that most probably if he would want to come back in the country, he would need to get an ARC (Authorization to Return to Canada) because his order of departure would automatically become a deportation order. So you can imagine, Outland Sponsorship (1/2 yr) + ARC (1yr) = 1.5 years at least to come back.

- If he does not leave after the given date of departure AFTER the PRRA result has been given, you can expect that the person never comes back again. This is one of the reason why people don't take the PRRA. But in your case you have a Sponsorship happening. PRRA will help you buy some time, which is what we have done.

About Sponsorship:

1) Send your sponsorship
2) Letter/email indicating that they got your application have been received. (AOR)
3) Letter/email indicating that you need to apply for CSQ (In QC only)
4) Letter/email indicating that you are eligible to sponsor. (AIP) With this, CIC will most probably not deport him.
5) Letter/email indicating that there have been a decision made. (DM)
6) The rest is pretty smooth.

I am no lawyer, but I am currently going through this dreadful process. I really wish that I can help others because the wait causes a lot of anxiety.

Good luck to you!
My PRRA took six good years,then they asked me to apply for sponsorship after that!!
 

Simon88

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Feb 18, 2013
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Mtl, Qc
Category........
Visa Office......
Vegreville
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
14-09-2012
Doc's Request.
15-08-2012
AOR Received.
01-12-2012
Med's Done....
15-08-2012
LANDED..........
10-06-2013
6 years a long time!! Wow. For us, my in-laws applied last April, and we got called for PRRA result in the beginning of February of this year. But I guess I shouldn't be that surprised because I heard from some friends that it took for some people 10 years, 20 years, I've even heard 40 years. It's a shame from the government's part that it takes so long because these people were settled and they finally have to be deported afterwards.
 

gsize

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May 2, 2009
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App. Filed.......
2009....denied Feb 2010.....appeal allowed (August 2012)..waiting for processing
Doc's Request.
04/04/2013
File Transfer...
30/01/2013
Med's Done....
04/2013 (second time)
Passport Req..
21/02, 2014
VISA ISSUED...
18/03/2014
LANDED..........
05/04/2014
Mrembo said:
Well,isn't that what they say?lol :D
yes, thats the ofical vrsion. The reality is something very different. Why are people so naive ?
 

Mrembo

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Apr 17, 2012
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Manitoba
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Visa Office......
Vegreville
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Nov 16th 2012
Doc's Request.
Jan 9th 2012
AOR Received.
Jan 9th 2012
Med's Request
Not yet
Med's Done....
2010
Interview........
Not yet
Passport Req..
Not yet
VISA ISSUED...
Not yet
LANDED..........
Can't wait
Why are people so naive ?
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I was being sarcastic!!-If anyone knows better it would be me,given my jurney with CIC!!-so,stop being so judgmental!! ;D
 

gsize

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May 2, 2009
958
48
Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
2009....denied Feb 2010.....appeal allowed (August 2012)..waiting for processing
Doc's Request.
04/04/2013
File Transfer...
30/01/2013
Med's Done....
04/2013 (second time)
Passport Req..
21/02, 2014
VISA ISSUED...
18/03/2014
LANDED..........
05/04/2014
Chuladaa said:
Hello I would like to ask you about your comment "If he does not leave after the given date of departure AFTER the PRRA result has been given, you can expect that the person never comes back again"

Is this fact or just your opinion?? where did you get the info to make that point?
this is not true. Your partner can return provided he gets ARC (Authoriation to return to Canada) Chances are, your partners processing will take longer anyways, so it becomes moot. 8)
 

mimi263

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Aug 13, 2012
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Simon88 said:
My wife was in the same position as you, although we sent our application waaaaaaayyyy later after she was denied. Yesterday we just got our approval in principle and it was an amazing feeling. So here is what you can expect:

About the denied status:

- After denial of the appeal, your husband would be presented with the PRRA (Pre-Removal Assessment). He has 15 days after being presented with the PRRA to apply. This basically assesses the amount of risk to his life if he were deported back to his country. This usually takes 6-8 months to process and get a result. This assessment has 99% failure rate. So don't count on this to get PR. You should take this only to extend his stay to give time for the sponsorship to get through first stage approval of the sponsorship.

- If he does not take the PRRA, he would technically have 30 days to leave the country.

- The problem with taking the PRRA is that most probably if he would want to come back in the country, he would need to get an ARC (Authorization to Return to Canada) because his order of departure would automatically become a deportation order. So you can imagine, Outland Sponsorship (1/2 yr) + ARC (1yr) = 1.5 years at least to come back.

- If he does not leave after the given date of departure AFTER the PRRA result has been given, you can expect that the person never comes back again. This is one of the reason why people don't take the PRRA. But in your case you have a Sponsorship happening. PRRA will help you buy some time, which is what we have done.

About Sponsorship:

1) Send your sponsorship
2) Letter/email indicating that they got your application have been received. (AOR)
3) Letter/email indicating that you need to apply for CSQ (In QC only)
4) Letter/email indicating that you are eligible to sponsor. (AIP) With this, CIC will most probably not deport him.
5) Letter/email indicating that there have been a decision made. (DM)
6) The rest is pretty smooth.

I am no lawyer, but I am currently going through this dreadful process. I really wish that I can help others because the wait causes a lot of anxiety.

Good luck to you!

I don't think my husband is eligible for a PRAA with the changes to the new law. Also we didn't receive anything after hearing about the appeal being denied, this week we got a letter saying he has an interview scheduled in 2 weeks with CBSA