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Advice needed:your landing experience crossing the border from Mtl to the U.S

V_

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Hi Guys!

My partner (from Chile) got his COPR recently, and the expiry date is very close, March 3rd. We already live in Canada.

We might flagpole this week-end, but we are a bit nervous because of this "fear" caused by the recent U.S immigration ban and its consequences. Also, we heard one story about a person (a French national) who was refused entry to the U.S specifically because he told the border officer his intention of only flagpoling. Probably an isolated case, but still.

I would appreciate any advice on the easiest place to flagpole from Montreal , and also your experience. Did you tell right away the american border officer that you were there just there to flagpole?

Really, any advice will be appreciated. Thanks a lot! :)
 

canuck_in_uk

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V_ said:
We might flagpole this week-end, but we are a bit nervous because of this "fear" caused by the recent U.S immigration ban and its consequences. Also, we heard one story about a person (a French national) who was refused entry to the U.S specifically because he told the border officer his intention of only flagpoling. Probably an isolated case, but still.

I would appreciate any advice on the easiest place to flagpole from Montreal , and also your experience. Did you tell right away the american border officer that you were there just there to flagpole?
Not an isolated case. One must either be admitted to the US or be refused entry in order to flagpole. If you choose to not enter the US, CBP will issue an "Administrative Refusal", which is not a real refusal and doesn't need to be declared as such in future. Your husband will then give that refusal paper to CBSA and they will process his landing.

Yes, you tell the US officer right away that you are flagpoling. They are familiar with the process.
 

V_

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Feb 26, 2015
61
1
Category........
Visa Office......
Mexico (Chile)
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
May 4th 2016
Doc's Request.
August 30th 2016: Police Cert from Canada
Nomination.....
SA June 23rd 2016. CSQ: app. received June 30th 2016, CSQ received August 22nd 2016
AOR Received.
AOR1 none, AOR2: August 17th 2016
File Transfer...
On Ecas: July 15th 2016
Med's Done....
Upfront: Feb 19 th 2016
canuck_in_uk said:
Not an isolated case. One must either be admitted to the US or be refused entry in order to flagpole. If you choose to not enter the US, CBP will issue an "Administrative Refusal", which is not a real refusal and doesn't need to be declared as such in future. Your husband will then give that refusal paper to CBSA and they will process his landing.

Yes, you tell the US officer right away that you are flagpoling. They are familiar with the process.
Thanks Canuck_in_uk for your reply. So if I understand well, my partner could be denied entry to the US, for the sole reason he asked to flagpole (he doesn't have any redflags), but then he would be given an "Administrative Refusal" that we could give right away to the Canadian border officer and he could land anyway...? What is confusing me is when you are denied, you cannot "choose to no enter the US", right?

Sorry for that, we are just a bit stressed out as it is the last step and the COPR expires soon. :)
 

canuck_in_uk

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V_ said:
Thanks Canuck_in_uk for your reply. So if I understand well, my partner could be denied entry to the US, for the sole reason he asked to flagpole (he doesn't have any redflags), but then he would be given an "Administrative Refusal" that we could give right away to the Canadian border officer and he could land anyway...? What is confusing me is when you are denied, you cannot "choose to no enter the US", right?
There is no real denial; whoever told you that story mixed up their words or you misunderstood. Your partner will basically ask to be refused entry and CBP will issue the Administration Refusal. That's it. Not a bid deal.