Adresses in the last 6 years

[success2016]

I'm supposed to list all of my addresses in the last 6 years in the application but I do not remember the exact days and months.

What can I do about this?

 

[Loulou79]

why cant u remember? I had to ask my family and 2 friends who used to be my neighbours for my old address. the ones in Canada, I kept records.

for the hotel i stayed in when i first landed, I had to consult google earth to remember.

My holidays addresses were not listed in the application and I sent it on July 7th. hope it will not be returned because of this.

 

[success2016]

why cant u remember? I had to ask my family and 2 friends who used to be my neighbours for my old address. the ones in Canada, I kept records.

for the hotel i stayed in when i first landed, I had to consult google earth to remember.

My holidays addresses were not listed in the application and I sent it on July 7th. hope it will not be returned because of this.

In the last 6 years I have moved 3 times and I didn't keep any records so I don't remember exactly what days I moved. So what can I do in this case?

 

[dpenabill]

In the last 6 years I have moved 3 times and I didn't keep any records so I don't remember exactly what days I moved. So what can I do in this case?

How to approach this situation depends in part on how well you can reconstruct the information, how accurate and precise and complete. An approximate day, rather than the exact day is probably OK, so long as the month is correct. All months need to be covered (leave no gaps).

"I don't remember" tends to not work.

PR applicants typically have to reconstruct ten years back. When I applied for PR, I had to report all addresses and employment since I was 18 years old: that meant going back more than four decades (yeah, I'm an old man). For some places, going back three decades or so, I could only describe locations, not precise address, but notwithstanding having lived in scores of different places it was not that difficult to reconstruct.

Since you were required to timely give notice to Provincial health care provider of any change in address, assuming you did this you may be able to get your records from them and use that to help you reconstruct addresses and dates. If you did not, if your provincial records are not going to be consistent with your actual places of abode, you might want to consider the alternative I describe below . . . which is to wait to apply when you have your information, accurate and complete, for the requisite period of time.

If there is a month or more you really cannot positively, accurately state where you were living, at the least you should acknowledge this on a separate page and explain as best you can. But of course this could lead to questions, doubts, RQ or such.

The other alternative, the one I alluded to above and one to actually consider if you really do have a problem reconstructing addresses and dates for more than an isolated month here or there, is to reconstruct as much as you can, going back as far as you are sure you can be accurate, and then consider waiting to apply six years from that date -- that is wait to apply when you will be able to positively state all addresses and employment and so on for the required period of time. While that may seem like a long wait, it could be shortened to five years when Bill C-6 is adopted, and overall a solid case will more likely sail smoothly to a quick oath whereas a case with holes in the information, let alone proof, could get bogged down as a residency case and take a lot, lot longer. Sometimes waiting is faster (really -- look at topics where applicants are still waiting for citizenship after applying in 2011 or 2012, more than a few in 2013).

In the meantime, welcome to the modern world in which adults are expected to keep fairly comprehensive records of their lives.

 

[Asker302]

How to approach this situation depends in part on how well you can reconstruct the information, how accurate and precise and complete. An approximate day, rather than the exact day is probably OK, so long as the month is correct. All months need to be covered (leave no gaps).

"I don't remember" tends to not work.

PR applicants typically have to reconstruct ten years back. When I applied for PR, I had to report all addresses and employment since I was 18 years old: that meant going back more than four decades (yeah, I'm an old man). For some places, going back three decades or so, I could only describe locations, not precise address, but notwithstanding having lived in scores of different places it was not that difficult to reconstruct.

Since you were required to timely give notice to Provincial health care provider of any change in address, assuming you did this you may be able to get your records from them and use that to help you reconstruct addresses and dates. If you did not, if your provincial records are not going to be consistent with your actual places of abode, you might want to consider the alternative I describe below . . . which is to wait to apply when you have your information, accurate and complete, for the requisite period of time.

If there is a month or more you really cannot positively, accurately state where you were living, at the least you should acknowledge this on a separate page and explain as best you can. But of course this could lead to questions, doubts, RQ or such.

The other alternative, the one I alluded to above and one to actually consider if you really do have a problem reconstructing addresses and dates for more than an isolated month here or there, is to reconstruct as much as you can, going back as far as you are sure you can be accurate, and then consider waiting to apply six years from that date -- that is wait to apply when you will be able to positively state all addresses and employment and so on for the required period of time. While that may seem like a long wait, it could be shortened to five years when Bill C-6 is adopted, and overall a solid case will more likely sail smoothly to a quick oath whereas a case with holes in the information, let alone proof, could get bogged down as a residency case and take a lot, lot longer. Sometimes waiting is faster (really -- look at topics where applicants are still waiting for citizenship after applying in 2011 or 2012, more than a few in 2013).

In the meantime, welcome to the modern world in which adults are expected to keep fairly comprehensive records of their lives.

After landing I stayed in couple hotels (at different cities in Canada) then returned back to home country and then came back to Canada to live permanently (after several months).

For the few weeks after landing, do I need to specify the home address (in my original Country) or the hotel addresses I used in Canada?

 

[dpenabill]

After landing I stayed in couple hotels (at different cities in Canada) then returned back to come country and then came back to Canada to live permanently (after several months).

For the few weeks after landing, do I need to specify the home address (in my original Country) or the hotel addresses I used in Canada?

I am no expert. I am not qualified to offer personal advice in individual cases.

Use some common sense. Some people really do live in a hotel. That is, then, their address for that period of time. Most people only stay in hotels for brief periods of time while continuing to maintain a more settled place of residence. Nothing magic about it being a hotel. What matters is where an individual actually maintains his or her place of residence.

Note that how to complete the application information is a very personal decision, one each applicant needs to make for himself or herself, based on his or her best understanding of the instructions and how to answer the item based on his or her particular facts and circumstances.

If the applicant's best answer seems odd or incongruous, perhaps that is when the individual should add a separate page with a detailed, but very brief, explanation or clarification.

Residential addresses tend to be fluid for many. A student boarding at a school hundreds if not thousands of kms away from "home," for example, may continue to think of and use his "home" address, where a parent lives for example, as his residential address, even though he is boarding elsewhere for months at a time. Other students actually establish their place of residence where they are going to school. (I did both, maintaining my residence at "home" while in university, though boarding here and there in the town where I went to university, and then later established residence in the town where I attended graduate programs . . . if applying for citizenship and that time in university counted, I probably would have listed my residential addresses in the form but added a separate page clarifying that while my residence was at xxx, yyy, but while I was attending school I was boarding at zzz, xyz, and give precise addresses and dates . . . and indeed that is precisely what I did when I applied for PR.)

Other complications: a PR who was in Canada for a period of time but whose actual residential address was still abroad. This, to my view, is the kind of scenario in which to report the residential address in the address history (even though a foreign address) but with a note, handwritten into the form, stating "see additional page of information" and on the additional page clarify the situation, describing the temporary stay in Canada, including dates and addresses. But again, how an individual approaches these things is very personal and depends on the particular situation.

 

[Asker302]

I am no expert. I am not qualified to offer personal advice in individual cases.

Use some common sense. Some people really do live in a hotel. That is, then, their address for that period of time. Most people only stay in hotels for brief periods of time while continuing to maintain a more settled place of residence. Nothing magic about it being a hotel. What matters is where an individual actually maintains his or her place of residence.

Note that how to complete the application information is a very personal decision, one each applicant needs to make for himself or herself, based on his or her best understanding of the instructions and how to answer the item based on his or her particular facts and circumstances.

If the applicant's best answer seems odd or incongruous, perhaps that is when the individual should add a separate page with a detailed, but very brief, explanation or clarification.

Residential addresses tend to be fluid for many. A student boarding at a school hundreds if not thousands of kms away from "home," for example, may continue to think of and use his "home" address, where a parent lives for example, as his residential address, even though he is boarding elsewhere for months at a time. Other students actually establish their place of residence where they are going to school. (I did both, maintaining my residence at "home" while in university, though boarding here and there in the town where I went to university, and then later established residence in the town where I attended graduate programs . . . if applying for citizenship and that time in university counted, I probably would have listed my residential addresses in the form but added a separate page clarifying that while my residence was at xxx, yyy, but while I was attending school I was boarding at zzz, xyz, and give precise addresses and dates . . . and indeed that is precisely what I did when I applied for PR.)

Other complications: a PR who was in Canada for a period of time but whose actual residential address was still abroad. This, to my view, is the kind of scenario in which to report the residential address in the address history (even though a foreign address) but with a note, handwritten into the form, stating "see additional page of information" and on the additional page clarify the situation, describing the temporary stay in Canada, including dates and addresses. But again, how an individual approaches these things is very personal and depends on the particular situation.

Thank you for information

After landing I stayd in ~10 different hotels during 17 days.
I'm inclined to write my home country residential address for that time, as this was only landing/exploratory visit/vacation

I do consider these days as "being physically present" in Canada.
Yet I'm not relying on them towards my 1460 days

I.e.
I have 17 days after landing + 1460 days after permanent arrival (not counting short vacations abroad) + 30 days buffer

Hope this would be enough