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399 points in Express entry

fahimmali1

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I have 399 points in express entry. Can i apply for provincial nomination for any province? I have heard that many provinces ask for job offer letter. Is there any province which does not require job offer?
 

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I have 399 points in express entry. Can i apply for provincial nomination for any province? I have heard that many provinces ask for job offer letter. Is there any province which does not require job offer?
With an Express Entry profile, regardless of the number of CRS points, you can apply to provincial nomination programs that are aligned with Express Entry. Most do require a job offer from an employer in the province. Those that do not require a job offer require much diligence on the applicants' part to submit a complete application when the stream is opened, and, when streams do open up for additional applications, they are only open for a mere few hours.

Those that do not require a job offer are the Ontario Immigrant Nomination Program (OINP), the Saskatchewan Immigrant Nomination Program (SINP), the Nova Scotia program, and the Manitoba program. Each has their own requirements, besides having an active Express Entry profile.

The Ontario program is driven by the province itself, and is what I like to call a 'don't call us, we'll call you' program. When the stream is open, they select individuals with Express Entry profiles with CRS scores of 400 or more. Those selected are invited to apply to be nominated by Ontario. The 400 score is a necessary, but not sufficient condition to be invited to apply to the program. There is also a fee to apply.

The SINP has generated copious amounts of postings on this site, and for good reason. It does not require a job offer, and ndividuals scoring at least 60 out of 100 points on their selection grid can apply when the stream is opened. The selection grid differs somewhat from the Express Entry selection grid that requires 67 out of 100 points. The SINP grid, for example, gives 8 points for individuals age 50, but no points for those 51 and older. The Federal grid stops giving points at age 46. The SINP gives no points for a second language proficiency, and no points for spousal credentials such as education and language ability. There are points for ties to the province, including presence of relatives. Another requirement that is critical for the SINP is that one must have experience in one of the occupations that is deemed to be 'in demand' in the province. This list has changed several times this year, with the removal of some occupations and the additions of others. Some occupations require a licence that may be difficult and time consuming to obtain for those not living in Canada.

The Nova Scotia program is similar to the SINP with the requirement that one have experience in one of their 'opportunity occupations.' This list is more stable than that with the SINP, and includes the popular NOC 2171.

The Manitoba program does not require experience in a particular occupation, but requires ties to the province. A 'close friend' living in the province, for example, can pledge that they will get you established in Manitoba. A derivative program is that involving immigrating to Morden, Manitoba. There is a sub forum on this site dealing with the ins and outs of this unique program.

Comment: It is frustrating that some provinces cite the need for immigration, but yet require a job offer. In particular is the Northwest Territories (of course a territory, not a province). Their recent report discusses this need, but does not indicate that they will modify their strategy to enable those without job offers to immigrate there. Nunavut has no program at all, but there must be some expertise that immigrants willing to deal with the isolation and cold winters that would benefit them.
 

ashuindian

VIP Member
Jan 5, 2016
8,139
2,014
India
Visa Office......
NDVO
NOC Code......
2282
App. Filed.......
4Jan16
Nomination.....
01Jun16
AOR Received.
17Jan17
File Transfer...
09 Feb17
Med's Request
08 Jun17
Med's Done....
13 Jun17
Passport Req..
05-03-2018
VISA ISSUED...
22-03-2018
LANDED..........
15-05-2018
I have a question. I saw that Express Entry's minimum point for ITA was around 4XX for the recent rounds.

If I am a BCPNP Express Entry International Graduate, don't I get 600 point and automatically qualify for ITA?

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/express-entry/past-rounds.asp
It would be nice that you ask this question here
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/bcpnp-information.493663/

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/bc-pnp-file-submitted-in-april-2017.483933/
 

ashuindian

VIP Member
Jan 5, 2016
8,139
2,014
India
Visa Office......
NDVO
NOC Code......
2282
App. Filed.......
4Jan16
Nomination.....
01Jun16
AOR Received.
17Jan17
File Transfer...
09 Feb17
Med's Request
08 Jun17
Med's Done....
13 Jun17
Passport Req..
05-03-2018
VISA ISSUED...
22-03-2018
LANDED..........
15-05-2018
With an Express Entry profile, regardless of the number of CRS points, you can apply to provincial nomination programs that are aligned with Express Entry. Most do require a job offer from an employer in the province. Those that do not require a job offer require much diligence on the applicants' part to submit a complete application when the stream is opened, and, when streams do open up for additional applications, they are only open for a mere few hours.

Those that do not require a job offer are the Ontario Immigrant Nomination Program (OINP), the Saskatchewan Immigrant Nomination Program (SINP), the Nova Scotia program, and the Manitoba program. Each has their own requirements, besides having an active Express Entry profile.

The Ontario program is driven by the province itself, and is what I like to call a 'don't call us, we'll call you' program. When the stream is open, they select individuals with Express Entry profiles with CRS scores of 400 or more. Those selected are invited to apply to be nominated by Ontario. The 400 score is a necessary, but not sufficient condition to be invited to apply to the program. There is also a fee to apply.

The SINP has generated copious amounts of postings on this site, and for good reason. It does not require a job offer, and ndividuals scoring at least 60 out of 100 points on their selection grid can apply when the stream is opened. The selection grid differs somewhat from the Express Entry selection grid that requires 67 out of 100 points. The SINP grid, for example, gives 8 points for individuals age 50, but no points for those 51 and older. The Federal grid stops giving points at age 46. The SINP gives no points for a second language proficiency, and no points for spousal credentials such as education and language ability. There are points for ties to the province, including presence of relatives. Another requirement that is critical for the SINP is that one must have experience in one of the occupations that is deemed to be 'in demand' in the province. This list has changed several times this year, with the removal of some occupations and the additions of others. Some occupations require a licence that may be difficult and time consuming to obtain for those not living in Canada.

The Nova Scotia program is similar to the SINP with the requirement that one have experience in one of their 'opportunity occupations.' This list is more stable than that with the SINP, and includes the popular NOC 2171.

The Manitoba program does not require experience in a particular occupation, but requires ties to the province. A 'close friend' living in the province, for example, can pledge that they will get you established in Manitoba. A derivative program is that involving immigrating to Morden, Manitoba. There is a sub forum on this site dealing with the ins and outs of this unique program.

Comment: It is frustrating that some provinces cite the need for immigration, but yet require a job offer. In particular is the Northwest Territories (of course a territory, not a province). Their recent report discusses this need, but does not indicate that they will modify their strategy to enable those without job offers to immigrate there. Nunavut has no program at all, but there must be some expertise that immigrants willing to deal with the isolation and cold winters that would benefit them.
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