190 days short for RO 730 days

[TinyHumanCA]

Hello! I badly need your help.
I have a situation. I landed as PR last October 2019, and stayed their for 3 months. I came back in my home country January of 2020. (Then pandemic happened) I was not able to come back in CA. August 2021 I was able to come back again in Canada. And then went back home January 2022.

My PR will expire on November 2024. And I'm planning to go back Feb 2024. I'm short by 190 days out of 730 days for RO. Already included the days from Feb-Nov 2024. Question:

1. Will I still be allowed to enter canada? I'm worried that I will encounter any issues in the airport. Second,
2. Can I still renew my PR

I would really appreciate your advise! Thank you in advance!

 

[Naturgrl]

Hello! I badly need your help.
I have a situation. I landed as PR last October 2019, and stayed their for 3 months. I came back in my home country January of 2020. (Then pandemic happened) I was not able to come back in CA. August 2021 I was able to come back again in Canada. And then went back home January 2022.

My PR will expire on November 2024. And I'm planning to go back Feb 2024. I'm short by 190 days out of 730 days for RO. Already included the days from Feb-Nov 2024. Question:

1. Will I still be allowed to enter canada? I'm worried that I will encounter any issues in the airport. Second,
2. Can I still renew my PR

I would really appreciate your advise! Thank you in advance!

1. Yes as long as enter before November 2024.
2. Only once you meet RO.

 

[Ponga]

1. It's possible that the CBSA officer will question you about the reason(s) why you will not meet the Residency Obligation to maintain your PR status. Depending on how that goes, the officer could lecture you about the importance of meeting (and maintaining) the R.O., or...could actually create a 44(1) report that would be the potential start of your status ultimately being revoked. I suggest that you start compiling the details of your story so that you can provide solid answers IF you are questioned. It's also possible that the officer will just waive you through, but just be prepared.

If you are allowed to enter without questions, you should probably stay in Canada until you have met the R.O. (plus a bit more, just for a buffer) before you apply for a renewed card.

 

[Besram]

In regards to (1), as a PR you will always be allowed to enter Canada (as long as no other inadmissibility reasons exist, e.g. criminal record). So even if you are reported for failing to meet the residency obligation, you can enter Canada. But they may issue a removal order against you, which you can appeal within a short time window. You will be allowed to remain in Canada until your appeal is decided.

What is your current level of establishment in Canada? Do you have a job, permanent accommodation, family ties, etc? This will be an important consideration if/when you are questioned at the border - likewise with your reasons for not meeting your RO.

 

[TinyHumanCA]

Hi! I’d like your advice. My PR card expired in November 2024, and I’ve been waiting until I meet the Residency Obligation (RO) before applying to renew. My target date to apply is October 18, 2025—by then, I’ll have met the RO with a buffer of 20+ extra days.


My question is: would it be safe to submit the renewal application on my own, or should I use an immigration agency to handle it for me?


For context, here’s my timeline:


Nova Scotia

• August 10, 2021 – January 17, 2022
• Total: 160 days

Saskatchewan

• March 6, 2024 – October 18, 2025
• Total: 591 days

Total by October 18, 2025: 751 days

 

[Besram]

Hi! I’d like your advice. My PR card expired in November 2024, and I’ve been waiting until I meet the Residency Obligation (RO) before applying to renew. My target date to apply is October 18, 2025—by then, I’ll have met the RO with a buffer of 20+ extra days.


My question is: would it be safe to submit the renewal application on my own, or should I use an immigration agency to handle it for me?


For context, here’s my timeline:


Nova Scotia

• August 10, 2021 – January 17, 2022
• Total: 160 days

Saskatchewan

• March 6, 2024 – October 18, 2025
• Total: 591 days

Total by October 18, 2025: 751 days

If you have lived in Canada for more than 730 days in the five years prior to your application date, there is no need to use a lawyer to submit your application.

Just make sure you treat your application like a normal renewal application. Specifically (relying on my memory here), there is a section where they ask you if they should consider any H&C reasons for not meeting your RO. Do not fill in this section (as long as you have the required number of days), because this could significantly delay your application. If you have 730+ days, you do NOT need to rely on H&C, and thus a lawyer is not needed.

 

[Naturgrl]

Hi! I’d like your advice. My PR card expired in November 2024, and I’ve been waiting until I meet the Residency Obligation (RO) before applying to renew. My target date to apply is October 18, 2025—by then, I’ll have met the RO with a buffer of 20+ extra days.


My question is: would it be safe to submit the renewal application on my own, or should I use an immigration agency to handle it for me?


For context, here’s my timeline:


Nova Scotia

• August 10, 2021 – January 17, 2022
• Total: 160 days

Saskatchewan

• March 6, 2024 – October 18, 2025
• Total: 591 days

Total by October 18, 2025: 751 days

Do it yourself.

 

[TinyHumanCA]

If you have lived in Canada for more than 730 days in the five years prior to your application date, there is no need to use a lawyer to submit your application.

Just make sure you treat your application like a normal renewal application. Specifically (relying on my memory here), there is a section where they ask you if they should consider any H&C reasons for not meeting your RO. Do not fill in this section (as long as you have the required number of days), because this could significantly delay your application. If you have 730+ days, you do NOT need to rely on H&C, and thus a lawyer is not needed.

Hi! Thank you. Should I worry about anything or this is all straight foward?

 

[TinyHumanCA]

Do it yourself.

Thank you so much!

 

[Besram]

Hi! Thank you. Should I worry about anything or this is all straight foward?

Nothing to worry about. The one thing to be mindful of is what I pointed out above (i.e., don't list H&C reasons because you won't need to rely on them). Otherwise, just be truthful and accurate in all the information you provide and there shouldn't be any issues at all.

 

[TinyHumanCA]

Nothing to worry about. The one thing to be mindful of is what I pointed out above (i.e., don't list H&C reasons because you won't need to rely on them). Otherwise, just be truthful and accurate in all the information you provide and there shouldn't be any issues at all.

Sorry to clarify - and the past 5 years will count from when I start my renewal application right?

 

[Besram]

Sorry to clarify - and the past 5 years will count from when I start my renewal application right?

Not when you start it, when you submit it.

 

[TinyHumanCA]

Not when you start it, when you submit it.

Thank you for all the help!