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117(9)(d) Exclusion. 30 days to respond.

jamesroy23

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Received this from Manila Visa Office

This is with respect to your application for a permanent residence in Canada.
Your application and all of the documents you submitted in support of it have been reviewed and it appears
that you may not meet the requirements for immigration to Canada.
Subsection 12(1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act states that a foreign national may be
selected as a member of the family class on the basis of their relationship as the spouse, common-law
partner, child, parent or other prescribed family member of a Canadian citizen or permanent resident.
Paragraph 117(9)(d) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations establishes the circumstances
under which a person may be excluded from the Family Class, notwithstanding their personal relationship
to their sponsor. Specifically, the Regulations state:
117(9)(d) A foreign national shall not be considered a member of the family class by virtue
of their relationship to a sponsor if, subject to subsection (10), the sponsor previously made an
application for permanent residence and became a permanent resident and, at the time of that
application, the foreign national was a non-accompanying family member of the sponsor and was
not examined.
Based on the information you have presented to this office, it would appear you fall within the exclusion
established by this provision. Specifically, you were not examined when your sponsor applied for and
subsequently obtained permanent residence in Canada.

You stated in your affidavit of March 16, 2019 that you and your sponsor were cohabiting in a common-
law relationship from 2003 until she left for Canada in 2015.

Before a final decision is made on your application, we would like to offer you the opportunity to respond
to this concern.
Any evidence or submissions which you or your sponsor may wish to submit to this office for consideration
in response to the concerns identified above must be received at our office within 30 days of


It turns out that the sponsor was declared as single when she was sponsored. She was sponsored by her daughter but due to lack of knowledge regarding common law, she was declared as single. Common-law is not really known to the Philippines and because she wasnt married during the sponsor PR application. She only got married a couple of years later after she became PR and lived in Canada. Now that she is sponsoring her husband it seems like this has made the husband ineligible to be sponsored.

Any advice on how to respond to this letter is appreciated.
 

k.h.p.

VIP Member
Mar 1, 2019
8,801
2,250
Canada
It has made the husband ineligible to be sponsored, because she had to declare him, especially for parent sponsorship, where the daughter's ability to sponsor her mother hinged on her ability to meet minimum income levels. Had the mother declared the husband, the daughter's ability to sponsor may not have been there.

The forms and instruction guides explain what common-law means in the context of an application. Even though it's not "known" in the Philippines, it was the responsibility of the daughter and mother to read and understand.

You could respond by stating you did not know what common-law meant, but you are likely to be refused the sponsorship.
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,840
22,108
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
Urgent Help Needed

Received this from Manila Visa Office

This is with respect to your application for a permanent residence in Canada.
Your application and all of the documents you submitted in support of it have been reviewed and it appears
that you may not meet the requirements for immigration to Canada.
Subsection 12(1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act states that a foreign national may be
selected as a member of the family class on the basis of their relationship as the spouse, common-law
partner, child, parent or other prescribed family member of a Canadian citizen or permanent resident.
Paragraph 117(9)(d) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations establishes the circumstances
under which a person may be excluded from the Family Class, notwithstanding their personal relationship
to their sponsor. Specifically, the Regulations state:
117(9)(d) A foreign national shall not be considered a member of the family class by virtue
of their relationship to a sponsor if, subject to subsection (10), the sponsor previously made an
application for permanent residence and became a permanent resident and, at the time of that
application, the foreign national was a non-accompanying family member of the sponsor and was
not examined.
Based on the information you have presented to this office, it would appear you fall within the exclusion
established by this provision. Specifically, you were not examined when your sponsor applied for and
subsequently obtained permanent residence in Canada.

You stated in your affidavit of March 16, 2019 that you and your sponsor were cohabiting in a common-
law relationship from 2003 until she left for Canada in 2015.

Before a final decision is made on your application, we would like to offer you the opportunity to respond
to this concern.
Any evidence or submissions which you or your sponsor may wish to submit to this office for consideration
in response to the concerns identified above must be received at our office within 30 days of


It turns out that the sponsor was declared as single when she was sponsored. She was sponsored by her daughter but due to lack of knowledge regarding common law, she was declared as single. Common-law is not really known to the Philippines and because she wasnt married during the sponsor PR application. She only got married a couple of years later after she became PR and lived in Canada. Now that she is sponsoring her husband it seems like this has made the husband ineligible to be sponsored.

Any advice on how to respond to this letter is appreciated.
Regardless of how she responds to the letter, it's unfortunately going to end in refusal. Your mother can never sponsor her husband since she failed to declare him when you sponsored her. Ignorance of Canadian immigration law is not accepted as an excuse unfortunately.
 

zardoz

VIP Member
Feb 2, 2013
13,298
2,167
Canada
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
London
App. Filed.......
16-02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
31-07-2013
LANDED..........
09-11-2013
This might be a scenario where the Pilot Project may be applicable, since the sponsor became a PR via Family Class Sponsorship, not an economic class.
 

canuck_in_uk

VIP Member
May 4, 2012
31,553
7,205
Visa Office......
London
App. Filed.......
06/12
This might be a scenario where the Pilot Project may be applicable, since the sponsor became a PR via Family Class Sponsorship, not an economic class.
The pilot applies to those who were sponsored as spouses, common-law partners or dependent children. Those who were sponsored as parents are not included, as it is not EDE.
 
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scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,840
22,108
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
This might be a scenario where the Pilot Project may be applicable, since the sponsor became a PR via Family Class Sponsorship, not an economic class.
No - there isn't. Parent sponsorship is specifically excluded from the pilot.

https://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=1487&top=14

Who’s not eligible for the pilot project?
You won’t be eligible if:
  • you weren’t declared or examined when your sponsor became a permanent resident
    • in an economic category (including as a caregiver)
    • after being sponsored in the family class other than as a spouse, partner or child (for example, parent/grandparent and their dependents, other relatives)
    • in the permit holder class
    • as an applicant in-Canada based on humanitarian and compassionate grounds
 
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zardoz

VIP Member
Feb 2, 2013
13,298
2,167
Canada
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
London
App. Filed.......
16-02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
31-07-2013
LANDED..........
09-11-2013
The pilot applies to those who were sponsored as spouses, common-law partners or dependent children. Those who were sponsored as parents are not included, as it is not EDE.
No - there isn't. Parent sponsorship is specifically excluded from the pilot.

https://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=1487&top=14

Who’s not eligible for the pilot project?
You won’t be eligible if:
  • you weren’t declared or examined when your sponsor became a permanent resident
    • in an economic category (including as a caregiver)
    • after being sponsored in the family class other than as a spouse, partner or child (for example, parent/grandparent and their dependents, other relatives)
    • in the permit holder class
    • as an applicant in-Canada based on humanitarian and compassionate grounds
Good catch both of you. I missed that restriction on the pilot. Thanks.
 
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