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I admire the way you all stick to the concept of the first generation cut off. But none of you actually read how it works in the law. The current law says..... as I have pointed out via Alan, and then again when I took over.... Not applicable — after first generation (3) Paragraphs (1)(b)...

So... in the judgement I showed you... where the original Citizenship judge AND the judge in charge of the legal appeal confirmed the applicants feather qualified under, and I quote "approved the Applicants’ Father’s application for a Certificate pursuant to paragraphs 3(1)(g) and 3(1)(e) of...

Hi Alpha, This is Paul! I have Hijacked Alan's log in, because he refuses to have anything more to do with my quest to be Canadian. I just want to show you one quick decision that I think means I am a Citizen. Perversely, it's a case where a second generation Canadian didn't get...

What you are reading is the 2014 act to amend the citizenship act.... not the act itself as it reads after the amendments. That is found at.... http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-29/index.html Which also has at the top the link "previous versions" which lets you see it as it was in...

Alpha, I understand what you are saying... about the second generation limit. But I'm not sure you are looking at what I am looking at. I know about the exception to the first generation rule and crown service. Totally understand that. But the legislation actually says..... (Where as in...

I think that the last part of what you have there does say "In general" for a reason. You say you agree the citizenship is retrospective for the father. And that it removes the need to register for the child. So the sticking point is the second generation cut-off. But the second generation...

So... the part I copied from the Government web site that says (e) applies to those who did not register.... is wrong? You still had to be registered? And the retrospective citizenship given back to the father isn't really truly retrospective? And second generation rule would still apply...

Ok, I get what you guys are saying... and I have agreed with you all the way along. I, and Paul for that matter, are not Canadian in my eyes. But.... he may have convinced me he has it right. On the 3(1)(e) bit.... follow us on this. His Dad has his citizenship restored in 2009, we call...

Hawk, I agree with you.... and have tried to tell him this several times. He is being stubborn however. What about the section 3(1)(e) argument?

Ok, this is my last putting forward of arguments for my cousin, Paul, on the citizenship topic.... after this he can make his own log in and chase it himself. In Australia we had a series of TV ads for Superannuation savings.... called "Compare the pair". It highlighted the final outcome for...

Yes, you see it as I do. the law now is pretty black and white, that whatever happened to strip the citizenship may have been unjust, and so now is reversed and back dated... the fact that the parent is NOW seen as having been a Canadian Citizen all along does NOT have the effect of changing...

Would he have to get his Father to get his own proof of citizenship first? Or can that step be skipped?

Yes... clear as mud indeed!!! I'll pass your idea on to him... see if he is willing to pursue it.

Ok, I have a follow up question here.... I was showing this citizenship stuff to my cousin, he is the son of one of my Dad's younger brothers... so in the same boat as me... and he wanted to know something. His dad, like mine born before 1 Jan 1947, would have gone through the same scenario as...

That's exactly the way I see it. The original law that was in place when I was born had the quirk.... where it counted him as a virtual generation zero overseas even though he was really generation one overseas. Under the original laws I would have been first overseas generation.... but as I...

Sort of true. To be Canadian all along we would have had to be registered. But if he had still been Canadian when we were born, we would have been when we were. Then lost it. Then had it reinstated with the other general restoring of lost citizenship. Interesting isn't it.

Hi all, Firstly, I'm not trying to get advice that I'm a Canadian... I'm not Canadian... but in doing some research for my family tree I found an interesting quirk in the 1st/2nd Generation born overseas rules on Canadian Citizenship. Ok, so my Grandfather was born in Ontario in 1912. Moved to...