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    Fighting the monarchy after taking the oath

    You make it sound like immigrants should know better than to apply for citizenship in a constitutional monarchy and not expect to declare allegiance to a king or queen and all their descendants until the end of time (which is essentially what the oath says). I have news for you. Aside from a...
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    Fighting the monarchy after taking the oath

    "You can be a citizen of ontario for example without holding canadian citizenship. " I don't know what you're talking about there. There's no such thing as an Ontario citizen. It's a province, not a country. We can put this whole issue to rest about the queen's citizenship by looking at where...
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    Fighting the monarchy after taking the oath

    No, you misunderstood. I didn't mean one ceases to become a citizen at all. I made the comment in reference to a Canadian who lives abroad full-time and has income. If you're a Canadian citizen and you live full-time in another country, you're subject to Canadian income tax. The claim is that...
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    Fighting the monarchy after taking the oath

    Agreed. To go back to the original question of whether speaking against the monarchy, therefore contravening the oath to be loyal to the queen, can have a detrimental effect on a person's status as a citizen, it in fact has no effect. A member of Canada's republican movement (Citizens for a...
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    Fighting the monarchy after taking the oath

    In reply #32 above, you said "The queen is Queen of Canada. Not Queen of Britain." "you dont need to pay taxes in canada to be canadian citizen." Ha! Now you're talking my language. According to Canada Revenue Agency, yes you do. If you are a Canadian living in another country and making...
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    Fighting the monarchy after taking the oath

    At any given time, polls show at least half of NATIVE BORN Canadians want to end the monarchy. Are you saying that they don't deserve Canadian citizenship? Look, I didn't start this discussion, but I agree with the person who did. The monarchy is a silly anachronism in Canada, a holdover from...
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    Fighting the monarchy after taking the oath

    Come on now, admit it. You're just making this stuff up, right? 1) The queen is not queen of Britain?? 2) Although the residency and tax obligations are essential to becoming a citizen, reciting the citizenship oath is NOT. It can be attained by birth, and by being the child of Canadian...
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    Fighting the monarchy after taking the oath

    Not true. There is no mention of the royal family in the Canadian Citizenship Act. However, it does say that one must be physically present in Canada as a permanent resident for at least 1,460 days and have met personal income tax filing obligations for four of six taxation years. Neither the...
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    Fighting the monarchy after taking the oath

    First, if the prerequisite for Canadian citizenship is not having to show a passport or visa upon entry, then monarchs of other countries are Canadian citizens too. According to the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Conventions, 1961, none travel overseas with a passport or visa, including the...
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    Fighting the monarchy after taking the oath

    Thanks. that link proves my point.
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    Fighting the monarchy after taking the oath

    The royal family is Canadian? If you really believe that, then you have a lot of work ahead of you to convince those of us who are Canadian, because I guarantee that if the public was polled, 100 percent would disagree. Hell, I was born in the UK, and I can assure you that the majority of...
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    Fighting the monarchy after taking the oath

    It's not the monarchy that's popular, it's the celebrity status of Will and Kate, who on any given week, have their faces plastered over every entertainment magazine, gossip rag or supermarket tabloid in the world. So sure, there's appeal for them, but roughly on par with that in the US or...
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    Fighting the monarchy after taking the oath

    I see it the other way. The government is forcing people to compromise their values of equality and democracy to support a system they don't believe in. I would even go so far as to call it extortion; declare your support for an elitist, undemocratic family (who aren't even Canadian...
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    Fighting the monarchy after taking the oath

    Hmm, classic "straw man" argument there. That is quite beside the point. William isn't about to become Canada's next head of state at all, and he won't be for many decades. We first have to have Charles. Besides, you yourself just demonstrated a belief in the democratic principle of...
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    Fighting the monarchy after taking the oath

    Actually, while it fluctuates year to year, a more accurate figure would be 40% abolish, 30% keep, 30% couldn't care less. This is particularly telling: "A poll by Ipsos-Reid, also in June 2010, found that the majority two-in-three Canadians agree the royal family should not have any formal...
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    Fighting the monarchy after taking the oath

    Agreed. But that need not change to become a republic like Ireland, India, Germany, etc. The republican movements in Canada, as well as Australia and New Zealand, all advocate making the Governor General the official head of state. Right now, the GG is only the de-facto head of state, meaning he...
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    Fighting the monarchy after taking the oath

    Millions of Canadians disagree. When the queen dies, most want to get rid of it. Search "God Save the Queen, 'Cause Canadians Aren't So Sure" for a revealing article. Good riddance, I say. There's no valid reason for Canada in 2015 to have a foreign person living in a castle on another...
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    Fighting the monarchy after taking the oath

    Once you become a Canadian citizen, there is no law in Canada that says you cannot exercise all your rights under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. That includes the right to freedom of speech, thought or political association. So, unlike some monarchies where you can be imprisoned...