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H&C Humanitarian Ground with/or Without Failed refugee claim

hamazariaz

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Feb 13, 2022
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I am from Afghanistan too my kids are white blues eyes and blonde hair too but took my application 3 years it’s normal process don’t be mad
Maybe you have inadmissible issues or you maybe apply in asylum in USA or Europe
It takes time they have to check everything about you guys
Plus whoever applied for H&c prepare yourself from 6 to 36 months if you hope positive answers
i didn't applied asylum in europe or uk, but i come from usa so i applied H&C
 

Ayanna

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Oct 4, 2020
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Hello, you are close with your question about how cases are prioritized. When I was more in tune with things it worked this way:

Priorities begin with PRRA cases, so this includes mostly failed claimants but includes any PRRAs because there's a removal order and an impending removal. The CBSA and IRCC have corresponding priorities because they're two parts of one thing, the Canadian public service. IRCC feeds the CBSA removal process PRRA decisions for the people who took up the CBSA's offer for PRRA.

If you have a PRRA then your H&C decision will become a part of that premier priority.

The priorities within this over-riding principle are criminality and security cases. There are not large numbers of these so it's something of an overreach to say that this dominates the pace of decision-making.

But, how do they organize their case distribution?

They distribute their casework in groups identified by nationality. What I mean here is that an officer gets 5 cases from France (for a neutral sort of nation in order to avoid any offence). Another officer might get 5 from Antarctica. There could be a variety inside of this "pocket," and what I mean here is that there may be 2 with only a PRRA, and 2 with a PRRA and an H&C and one lonely H&C without a PRRA - all from the same nation.

People rightfully remain incurious about budgets, workforce levels, grades or ratios of decision-makers to clerical and administrative staff. But along with these things that the Government has to consider, they also have to maximize their output. Targets for individual decision-making are intensely reviewed to see that the decisions are being pumped out. Statistics are always a topic of interest both by office and officer.

So, thick files, thin files, this or that - you look at the whole inventory (PRRAs & H&Cs), you distribute the inventory in such a manner as to keep the CBSA PRRA decisions moving, then try to filter down the H&C inventory by its age (not letting them get too old while juggling the other stuff).

There's incredible repetition inside of certain casework, and so assigning multiple cases from distinct countries speeds research and familiarization with the issues in those collective files. This way you get officer expertise, more rapid decision-making and greater statistical output.

When I knew what they were doing this was how they did it. Have they changed or screwed it up since then? I wouldn't know. I can tell you that about 10 years ago their training told them when they had a PRRA and an H&C they should look at the H&C first because they have greater discretion with an H&C. If they say yes then the PRRA's immediately refused and you move on.

There's plenty of tension and apprehension and speculative worries when people reach this point in their immigration odyssey. It should help to know that there isn't much attention paid to trickery.
i didn't applied asylum in europe or uk, but i come from usa so i applied H&C
If you applied asylum in USA it’s hard to get approval
 

SweetQueen

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Nov 12, 2020
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Guys, I received the refusal explanation.
the officer pointed that we are well stablished in the community, but we can sell everything we have and go back to our country. He said we were able to find good jobs here since the beginning,
So it is gonna be even easier to find a job in the country we were raised. Said also that because our kid is young, is doing well in school it means she is smart and can easily adapt to another school in another country.
Said that where we live could be not safe for her but to keep a kid safe is the parents job and not the country job.
Said we have lots of friends but we can keep contact by telephone.
Said even though we showed we don’t have family to support us, he thinks once we go back, they could help us on a short term and that we have some savings so we are gonna be fine.
Sais that the country we were born could not be good but it isn’t the only one that is not good.

It was pretty much that.
I’m preparing for my second application.
How can such Sadist be working as a Humanitarian and Compassionate Officer ?
All the reasons for approval are his reasons for denial.
Nonetheless, you need to reapply. Giving up is not an op
I pray that your next application will fall into the hands of an officer who will send you AIP after reading this refusal letter.
With or without a lawyer, remember to pray and have faith in your God.
Wishing you best of Luck with your next application.