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slavicgirl

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Well, if NATO cannot intervene in this conflict, will others believe it will keep its treaty promises? Next may be Taiwan. There is a reason why people buy F-16s even though that are so old. It comes with an American alignment. Why will you align with America if you know that it is unreliable.
NATO itself won't interfere as Ukraine is not a NATO member. Interfering also means a potential bigger worldwide conflict which all parties want to avoid like plague. The truth is that Ukrainians will be left alone militarily.
 
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It is a test for NATO, as Ukraine only just joined NATO in 2019.
Ukraine is not a NATO member. You can verify that by the fact that you still haven't seen nukes flying over your head destroying the ISP hardware running your internet right now.
 
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NATO itself won't interfere as Ukraine is not a NATO member. Interfering also means a potential bigger worldwide conflict which all parties want to avoid like plague. The truth is that Ukrainians will be left alone militarily.
Thats the point. If NATO cannot intervene in a conflict in its own backyard (though they share it with Russia too), will America and its allies intervene in other places? It brings NATO and especially US down few pegs..
 

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Putin has demanded to put the status quo back how it was in the 90s before NATO expansion to Central/Eastern Europe. He demanded it many times during the negotiations with the west in the past weeks. Maybe it was only a strategy? god knows
Devil knows... May be they think now NATO and US are weak enough that a small demonstration is due. Putin is doing all the show complete with angry speech and all its bells and whistles.
 
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I'll believe anything at this point. Russian nuking U.S? Sure, it can happen.
We won't see any global wars. New and old imperials will share (re-share) the world, it will be just like business.
 

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Putin has demanded to put the status quo back how it was in the 90s before NATO expansion to Central/Eastern Europe. He demanded it many times during the negotiations with the west in the past weeks. Maybe it was only a strategy? god knows
Russia perceives all the post-soviet republics as her lost lands and now wants to bring them together under her domination. May God forbid that.
 

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We won't see any global wars. New and old imperials will share (re-share) the world, it will be just like business.
Two or three years back, I would have laughed at a global pandemic. Its more of a never say never world these days. But I do believe a global war is certainly not in China's favour atleast. Question is, will they put economy or geopolitics first?
 

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Russia perceives all the post-soviet republics as her lost lands and now wants to bring them together under her domination. May God forbid that.
I hope NATO membership will save my mother country's ass from decades of fuckin Russian invasion again. I heard enough stories from my grandparents from that period, I can still remember when my grandmother told me the story when Russian tanks appeared and how the girls must be hidden in basements and wine vaults and other places.
 
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I hope NATO membership will save my mother country's ass from decades of fuckin Russian invasion again. I heard enough stories from my grandparents from that period, I can still remember when my grandmother told me the story when Russian tanks appeared and how the girls must be hidden in basements and wine vaults and other places.
If this keeps on going, soon, many countries will leave NPT. Why trust these powers if they cannt keep peace among themselves?
 
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what i don't understand is how Russians can tolerate this??? This is beyond me, really.

Simple. They live under a totalitarian government and not a democratic one.

Didn't Putin enact some law that made him a dictator?
 

slavicgirl

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Simple. They live under a totalitarian government and not a democratic one.

Didn't Putin enact some law that made him a dictator?
I can only hope that Russian people don't support this madness.

Erdogan also needs to show his cards soon where he is sanding as a NATO member. Turkey has already been asked to close Bosphorus and don't let Russian warships pass by.
 

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Next is Chinas invasion of Taiwan. Easily within next 6 months

When Trump was president they wouldn't dare anything cos he was so erratic they may not hesitate to nuke anyone but with Biden you get the typical weak democrat.
 
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