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Visitor Visa for Spouse

Shaikhnadeem

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Apr 2, 2018
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I am applying a Visitor Visa for my spouse from India. Does anyone know if i am required to get a wet signature of my spouse on IMM5257e (Visitor Visa) form? or an e signature is good enough?
 

Madi667

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Jul 7, 2018
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Im applying for a visitor visa for my fiance after we get married. She is not working and currently outside Canada (never been to Canada). The plan is that we apply for dual intent (PR + work permit) after she arrives as a visitor.

what are our options to save time: she applies on her own before our marriage so we can save time (120 days for processing time). Or Apply after we get married so she doesnt have to show proof of income or savings?
Im planning to let the immigration officer know in the TRV application that we will apply for dual intent as soon as she arrives, so that the officer wont worry about her staying in Canada after her TRV expires.

any suggestions or thoughts?

Side note: Im a permanent resident not a citizen
 

scylla

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Jun 8, 2010
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Category........
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Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
Im applying for a visitor visa for my fiance after we get married. She is not working and currently outside Canada (never been to Canada). The plan is that we apply for dual intent (PR + work permit) after she arrives as a visitor.

what are our options to save time: she applies on her own before our marriage so we can save time (120 days for processing time). Or Apply after we get married so she doesnt have to show proof of income or savings?
Im planning to let the immigration officer know in the TRV application that we will apply for dual intent as soon as she arrives, so that the officer wont worry about her staying in Canada after her TRV expire.

any suggestions or thoughts?

Side note: Im a permanent resident not a citizen
I would personally not mention the dual intent in the TRV. This will clearly indicate your fiancee plans to use the TRV to relocate to Canada long term (vs. temporary visit) and will increase the chances of refusal. Yes, dual intent is a thing. However calling out dual intent in a TRV application rarely works out in the applicant's favour. Instead, your fiancee should apply for the TRV as someone who plans to only visit Canada, showing ties to her home country and proof of funds to support her visit. The fact she is unemployed will work against her. Is she in school full time? If so, include this as a tie.

If she has previous travel to countries requiring visas such as the US or UK, she should include this in her application. This will work in her favour.

I would apply before you get married if possible. Chances of approval will be lower after marriage.
 

Madi667

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Jul 7, 2018
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I would personally not mention the dual intent in the TRV. This will clearly indicate your fiancee plans to use the TRV to relocate to Canada long term (vs. temporary visit) and will increase the chances of refusal. Yes, dual intent is a thing. However calling out dual intent in a TRV application rarely works out in the applicant's favour. Instead, your fiancee should apply for the TRV as someone who plans to only visit Canada, showing ties to her home country and proof of funds to support her visit. The fact she is unemployed will work against her. Is she in school full time? If so, include this as a tie.

If she has previous travel to countries requiring visas such as the US or UK, she should include this in her application. This will work in her favour.

I would apply before you get married if possible. Chances of approval will be lower after marriage.
Thank you for your response!
she is doing training back home (a six month training) I think they pay her a little. Would showing that she has saving help?

are you saying that she shouldnt show that shes married when she submits the application and just wanna visit? Visit who? Wouldnt that be me? If we are to do that, the TRV application should be submitted before we get married. If she doesnt mention that she married then apply for sponsorship, they will see the marriage happened before we applied for a TRV.

she went to school in Europe (which required a visa).
 

Madi667

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Jul 7, 2018
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Thank you for your response!
she is doing training back home (a six month training) I think they pay her a little. Would showing that she has saving help?

are you saying that she shouldnt show that shes married when she submits the application and just wanna visit? Visit who? Wouldnt that be me? If we are to do that, the TRV application should be submitted before we get married. If she doesnt mention that she married then apply for sponsorship, they will see the marriage happened before we applied for a TRV.

she went to school in Europe (which required a visa).
How much money does she need to show for a visitor visa? Also, do we need to book a hotel or use my current address?

do you think it is save that she comes first as a visitor then we start the application for dual intent within Canada? She wont have to leave after her visitor visa expire, right?
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,837
22,108
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
Thank you for your response!
she is doing training back home (a six month training) I think they pay her a little. Would showing that she has saving help?

are you saying that she shouldnt show that shes married when she submits the application and just wanna visit? Visit who? Wouldnt that be me? If we are to do that, the TRV application should be submitted before we get married. If she doesnt mention that she married then apply for sponsorship, they will see the marriage happened before we applied for a TRV.

she went to school in Europe (which required a visa).
- Yes, she should show savings.
- No, I'm not saying that she shouldn't show she is married when she applies. That would be misrepresentation which would put her on the path for a 5 year ban from Canada. I was suggesting that she apply before she gets married. That is one option. The other option would be to apply after she gets married but only request a visit (rather than say she plans to come permanently). Yes, in that case the person she would be visiting would naturally be you and she would absolutely have to say she is married.
- She should make sure the schooling in Europe is mentioned.
 

fuyicn

Newbie
Feb 15, 2022
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hi, i am applying my spouse visitor visa too. got refused twice. last time the refused reason was the purpose of the visit. And I invited her to have marriage photos in Banff, etc. What would be the good reason if I reapply?
thx
 

Madi667

Full Member
Jul 7, 2018
39
17
Thank you for your response!
she is doing training back home (a six month training) I think they pay her a little. Would showing that she has saving help?

are you saying that she shouldnt show that shes married when she submits the application and just wanna visit? Visit who? Wouldnt that be me? If we are to do that, the TRV application should be submitted before we get married. If she doesnt mention that she married then apply for sponsorship, they will see the marriage happened before we applied for a TRV.

she went to school in Europe (which required a visa).
Thank you so much for the information. I am really in need for such advice. Okay, we can apply for her TRV before we actually get married (She can say that her fiance is a permeant resident in Canada and she would like to visit him and will leave Canada prior to the expiration of her TRV).

1- How much saving is acceptable (like $10,000)?
2- Any suggestions of how to convince the officer that she has strong ties back home?

Once she arrives in Canada, we can submit both applications at once (dual intent). I believe she doesn't need to leave Canada after the dual intent application is submitted.
 

canuck78

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Jun 18, 2017
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Thank you so much for the information. I am really in need for such advice. Okay, we can apply for her TRV before we actually get married (She can say that her fiance is a permeant resident in Canada and she would like to visit him and will leave Canada prior to the expiration of her TRV).

1- How much saving is acceptable (like $10,000)?
2- Any suggestions of how to convince the officer that she has strong ties back home?

Once she arrives in Canada, we can submit both applications at once (dual intent). I believe she doesn't need to leave Canada after the dual intent application is submitted.
You should apply for a TRV months before you get married because if the TRV is still I process you will have to send a webform to IRCC indicating that you are now married to a Canadian PR or citizen. I would not highlight that you are engaged to a PR. That will increase the chances of refusal. If IRCC has any concerns that you want to remain in Canada there is a good chance of refusal. She will need to show proof of longterm employment (in her case finishing her schooling), registration for future semesters if that is her situation, property ownership, proof of a family member is dependent on her, her savings,etc. There are no guarantees that a TRV will be granted so make sure you have a plan B if outland sponsorship is you on,y option.
 

Madi667

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Jul 7, 2018
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You should apply for a TRV months before you get married because if the TRV is still I process you will have to send a webform to IRCC indicating that you are now married to a Canadian PR or citizen. I would not highlight that you are engaged to a PR. That will increase the chances of refusal. If IRCC has any concerns that you want to remain in Canada there is a good chance of refusal. She will need to show proof of longterm employment (in her case finishing her schooling), registration for future semesters if that is her situation, property ownership, proof of a family member is dependent on her, her savings,etc. There are no guarantees that a TRV will be granted so make sure you have a plan B if outland sponsorship is you on,y option.
Why does the TRV seem to be hard to get? She can apply for one asap but the marriage will happen while it's processing. Im still hesistant I need a solid plan for my situation. Im sure there are thousands of people who have done what I need to get done.

All I want is to bring my future wife with me to Canada then sponsor her after she arrives (PR inland). We are planning to get married in like 2-3 months from now.

what if she applies for a TRV like for tourism and wont mention my name on the application. Wouldn't that be easier? But then while the application is being processed, both of us need to notified CIC of our marriage since its gonna happen while processing. Wouldn't that affect the officer's decision?
 

canuck78

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Jun 18, 2017
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Why does the TRV seem to be hard to get? She can apply for one asap but the marriage will happen while it's processing. Im still hesistant I need a solid plan for my situation. Im sure there are thousands of people who have done what I need to get done.

All I want is to bring my future wife with me to Canada then sponsor her after she arrives (PR inland). We are planning to get married in like 2-3 months from now.

what if she applies for a TRV like for tourism and wont mention my name on the application. Wouldn't that be easier? But then while the application is being processed, both of us need to notified CIC of our marriage since its gonna happen while processing. Wouldn't that affect the officer's decision?
TRVs to enter Canada are pretty difficult to get compared to other countries because it is very difficult and expensive to deport someone from Canada. A TRV may not be possible. Unfortunately many are only able to apply outland. Yes she can apply for a TRV based on tourism. It is very difficult to guess whether she will be approved. It will be dependent on the strength of her application. Things like a longterm job, good savings, property in her name, previous international travel to places like US, UK, Australia, etc. will make her application stronger. If you get married while the TRV is still being processed she would need to update IRCC about her change in circumstances. If she is denied a TRV I would suggest applying for outland sponsorship and try reapply for a TRV partway through the sponsorship process. It used to be very difficult for spouses of Canadian citizens and PRs were extremely difficult to get but we are seeing more approvals than before. There is no harm in trying to apply for a TRV.
 

Madi667

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Jul 7, 2018
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TRVs to enter Canada are pretty difficult to get compared to other countries because it is very difficult and expensive to deport someone from Canada. A TRV may not be possible. Unfortunately many are only able to apply outland. Yes she can apply for a TRV based on tourism. It is very difficult to guess whether she will be approved. It will be dependent on the strength of her application. Things like a longterm job, good savings, property in her name, previous international travel to places like US, UK, Australia, etc. will make her application stronger. If you get married while the TRV is still being processed she would need to update IRCC about her change in circumstances. If she is denied a TRV I would suggest applying for outland sponsorship and try reapply for a TRV partway through the sponsorship process. It used to be very difficult for spouses of Canadian citizens and PRs were extremely difficult to get but we are seeing more approvals than before. There is no harm in trying to apply for a TRV.
Appreciate your time to answer my questions. I kind of have a better view of what's going on. I don't know if she has any savings to be honest. If it's that difficult, I may look for an immigration agency to get it done for me. They're expensive but I cannot take chances.

Honestly, I asked the immigration agency that helped with my PR application about my situation. They said "apply for a visitor visa and let the officer know on the application that she will apply for dual intent after landing. Therefore, she wont need to show proof of income, savings or ties". Now, on this forum, you guys said not to mention on the TRV application that we would be applying for dual intent after getting the TRV and arriving in Canada. Aren't we supposed to be transparent with the immigration. Many people wanna bring and sponsor their partners. The immigration knows it. The TRV is just a permission to enter the country.

What do you guys think? If anyone disagrees, please please give advice and / or explain.

I have been searching for two weeks about my situation but I have to clear plan of what I should do and Im running out of time.
 

canuck78

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Jun 18, 2017
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Appreciate your time to answer my questions. I kind of have a better view of what's going on. I don't know if she has any savings to be honest. If it's that difficult, I may look for an immigration agency to get it done for me. They're expensive but I cannot take chances.

Honestly, I asked the immigration agency that helped with my PR application about my situation. They said "apply for a visitor visa and let the officer know on the application that she will apply for dual intent after landing. Therefore, she wont need to show proof of income, savings or ties". Now, on this forum, you guys said not to mention on the TRV application that we would be applying for dual intent after getting the TRV and arriving in Canada. Aren't we supposed to be transparent with the immigration. Many people wanna bring and sponsor their partners. The immigration knows it. The TRV is just a permission to enter the country.

What do you guys think? If anyone disagrees, please please give advice and / or explain.

I have been searching for two weeks about my situation but I have to clear plan of what I should do and Im running out of time.
Save your money. Most immigration consultants don’t add any benefit and many create more problems. The advice you received was not correct or good advice. Canada is aware that many would prefer that their spouse be able to apply for inland sponsorship but for various reasons, including immigration fraud, Canada prefers outland sponsorship applications in many cases. You can try to apply for a TRV but many are denied a TRV and have no choice but to go through inland sponsorship. If you indicate that you want to sponsor your spouse inland on your TRV application you are almost 100% going to be denied.
 

Madi667

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Jul 7, 2018
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Save your money. Most immigration consultants don’t add any benefit and many create more problems. The advice you received was not correct or good advice. Canada is aware that many would prefer that their spouse be able to apply for inland sponsorship but for various reasons, including immigration fraud, Canada prefers outland sponsorship applications in many cases. You can try to apply for a TRV but many are denied a TRV and have no choice but to go through inland sponsorship. If you indicate that you want to sponsor your spouse inland on your TRV application you are almost 100% going to be denied.
All what you said makes sense. Could you please walk me through what I should be doing? The application is tricky and I will need to fill it out correctly without lying to the immigration.
1- How much savings is acceptable? Would $10,000 be enough?
2- Where is she staying in Canada? If with me, who am I to her (relationship)? If not, she will need like a hotel reservation or a homestay
3- After we get married, she will let the immigration know while the application being process. My name will be brought up, right? or she will just say married without any information (not sure how this is done) - Would this change affect the officer's decision?
4- If the application gets approved, can we apply for dual intent (PR + Work Permit (inland))

Everything seems to be legit, right? I hope my questions and what I am going through helps other people who are or will be doing the same thing.

Thanks again for taking the time. I really appreciate it!