FSW Inland PR applicants

[DroneMaker]

Yeah 100%. To be FSW - Inland you have to have residence. To have residence you need a long-term permit of some sort - student. work, something less common idk.

FSW-Inland aren't getting processed because
1. FSW are not getting processed (reasons unclear - I have no real idea)
2. IRCC's internal system was not built to differentiate between Inland/Outland within a stream. (my guess - pretty confident, I work in tech)

Fingers crossed something changes. There are still poor people with some December 2018 AORs who haven't gotten CoPR... all outlanders, I think. I would have given up long ago if I were them. We are in better shape, at least.

Yes you are right for the first part. Check what Canadian Bar Association's Immigration Section chair has to say about it:

For the second part, you are partially correct. Although IRCC's can only differentiate between CEC, FSW, PNP or FST, they do have the ability to search and identify the FSW-Inland applicants. I say this because I seen an ATIP response where someone asked this specific question through an ATIP request and IRCC's response is:
"Yes, IRCC is able to search and identify applications on the basis of applicants present inside Canada (Inland) or outside Canada(Overseas)."

Now if IRCC chooses, they can advise their officers to find and prioritize all Inland applicants based among the application assigned to them.

As of March 31, 2021, there were close to 4000 FSW-Inland applications in the inventory of IRCC (this number was also obtained using the ATIP request). I think all FSW-Inland candidates should unite and do a class action lawsuit against IRCC for denying procedural fairness, because a an undue delay is denial of procedural fairness. https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/service-delivery/procedural-fairness.html

 

[Princes2020]

Yes you are right for the first part. Check what Canadian Bar Association's Immigration Section chair has to say about it:

For the second part, you are partially correct. Although IRCC's can only differentiate between CEC, FSW, PNP or FST, they do have the ability to search and identify the FSW-Inland applicants. I say this because I seen an ATIP response where someone asked this specific question through an ATIP request and IRCC's response is:
"Yes, IRCC is able to search and identify applications on the basis of applicants present inside Canada (Inland) or outside Canada(Overseas)."

Now if IRCC chooses, they can advise their officers to find and prioritize all Inland applicants based among the application assigned to them.

As of March 31, 2021, there were close to 4000 FSW-Inland applications in the inventory of IRCC (this number was also obtained using the ATIP request). I think all FSW-Inland candidates should unite and do a class action lawsuit against IRCC for denying procedural fairness, because a an undue delay is denial of procedural fairness. https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/service-delivery/procedural-fairness.html

If you include inland pnp as well then I am all in for the lawsuit. This denial of procedural fairness has caused us great mental stress and has been affecting our lives.

 

[ariocar]

Yes you are right for the first part. Check what Canadian Bar Association's Immigration Section chair has to say about it:

For the second part, you are partially correct. Although IRCC's can only differentiate between CEC, FSW, PNP or FST, they do have the ability to search and identify the FSW-Inland applicants. I say this because I seen an ATIP response where someone asked this specific question through an ATIP request and IRCC's response is:
"Yes, IRCC is able to search and identify applications on the basis of applicants present inside Canada (Inland) or outside Canada(Overseas)."

Now if IRCC chooses, they can advise their officers to find and prioritize all Inland applicants based among the application assigned to them.

As of March 31, 2021, there were close to 4000 FSW-Inland applications in the inventory of IRCC (this number was also obtained using the ATIP request). I think all FSW-Inland candidates should unite and do a class action lawsuit against IRCC for denying procedural fairness, because a an undue delay is denial of procedural fairness. https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/service-delivery/procedural-fairness.html

I'm in, they're clearly ignoring us and have held our applications in the criminality stage for months now! On the other hand they'r3e approving CEC cases within 2-3 month since AOR. This is not fair, we're living in Canada, paying taxes and we're not sure of our future.
They also approved around 45000 cases of PR applications last month, it shouldn't be an issue for them to clear FSW Inland backlog within weeks.
@legalfalcon please advise.

 

[erwin2020]

https://search.open.canada.ca/en/bn/?search_text=economic+class&sort-by=score+desc&page=1

 

[Princes2020]

https://search.open.canada.ca/en/bn/?search_text=economic+class&sort-by=score+desc&page=1

Not applicable to inland applicants

 

[erwin2020]

Not applicable to inland applicants

Apparently they can’t differentiate between Inland and Outland :

and based on this forum and myImmitacker very few inland are processed

 

[NicoHughes]

Yeah 100%. To be FSW - Inland you have to have residence. To have residence you need a long-term permit of some sort - student. work, something less common idk.

FSW-Inland aren't getting processed because
1. FSW are not getting processed (reasons unclear - I have no real idea)
2. IRCC's internal system was not built to differentiate between Inland/Outland within a stream. (my guess - pretty confident, I work in tech)

Fingers crossed something changes. There are still poor people with some December 2018 AORs who haven't gotten CoPR... all outlanders, I think. I would have given up long ago if I were them. We are in better shape, at least.

Mark Holthe confirmed IRCC cannot distinguish between inland vs outland.

 

[NicoHughes]

Yeah 100%. To be FSW - Inland you have to have residence. To have residence you need a long-term permit of some sort - student. work, something less common idk.

FSW-Inland aren't getting processed because
1. FSW are not getting processed (reasons unclear - I have no real idea)
2. IRCC's internal system was not built to differentiate between Inland/Outland within a stream. (my guess - pretty confident, I work in tech)

Fingers crossed something changes. There are still poor people with some December 2018 AORs who haven't gotten CoPR... all outlanders, I think. I would have given up long ago if I were them. We are in better shape, at least.

> There are still poor people with some December 2018 AORs who haven't gotten CoPR...

Why not talk about people who submitted in June 2021 and already got approved?

 

[Hamidishfaq]

Apparently they can’t differentiate between Inland and Outland :

and based on this forum and myImmitacker very few inland are processed

Based on the note by the officer regarding medical extension in my GCMS notes-ordered them in June 14 and got them July 16-I do not think they have any way or they are using anyway to distinguish between Inland and Outland as his wording on the note is as follows:

"Reassessment has been granted and a new medical certificate with a validity of 12 months has been issued in GCMS. Should the applicant not land before the expiry of the medical, a new IME will be required. Please pick-up this IME number again in order to update the medical validity on the application"

The use of the term "not land" is what makes me believe that they have no distinction of Inland or Outland for the FSW applications because if the officer was aware of that they'd probably not have mentioned landing, as that is not required for Inland applicants. It is possible that they just used a generic statement here but that is just my opinion.

 

[Princes2020]

Mark Holthe confirmed IRCC cannot distinguish between inland vs outland.

And the immigration minister is busy tweeting abt how they’re digitalising things at IRCC. Seriously!

 

[guelphite]

And the immigration minister is busy tweeting abt how they’re digitalising things at IRCC. Seriously!

Sigh. The immigration minister likely has no idea what is going on with the tech side and is probably completely reliant on consultants.

The consultants won't want to make a structural system change in the middle of the pandemic, when IRCC work processes got completely upended.

I'm guessing this is what happened to us :-/

 

[Lii]

Mark Holthe confirmed IRCC cannot distinguish between inland vs outland.

But all inland pnp or fsw inland who got their PR got COPR and not PPR, they are distinguishing while issuing as all outland n inland. Also the medical extension policy is applicable only for inland applicants. The moment an inland applicant travels outside Canada, they have to redo medicals.

 

[JSF]

Canada faces a staggering immigration backlog.
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As of July 6, the backlog of permanent residence applications had skyrocketed by 70 per cent to 375,137 since February 2020, with the number of applications for temporary residence currently sitting at 702,660 cases.
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Wanting to keep the country’s immigration pipeline flowing, but not knowing how long travel restrictions would be in place, officials turned to the huge pool of migrant workers already in Canada to offer some of them permanent residency.
....
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2021/08/01/canada-faces-a-staggering-immigration-backlog-with-the-border-reopening-and-applicants-anxious-to-get-here-how-should-ottawa-prioritize.html

 

[slmprtyl]

Guys, may I ask what is MP? Are they gonna help with our case processing?

 

[slmprtyl]

May I ask what is MP and how to contact them?