January 2020 on wards Paper Based PR Applicants waiting for AOR/MR/PPR connect here.

[td88]

That's not a problem. I have an agency here in Vancouver ( created 1 year ago with a couple of friends). Nothing big (we don't have an office or something, it's just on paper), but i made sufficient money to "live" only with that if i want.

My problem is that i can't leave my first job because, in theory, you need to work in the place that sponsored you with the PNP until you finish the PR application. They said that if you want to leave it you have 90 days to find another job in another company with the same NOC, but in my case it would be useless because the whole point is that i need time to work in my agency, not another company.

On top of that 2 month ago i found out that my company wanted to change office and they are moving 2 hours from my home. I can work remotely sometimes but not everyday, so now my problem is that if i have to do 3 hours (at least) of commute it will be impossibile to work for my agency.
So i'm stuck in this situation where i'm building a business and there's the risk to lose it because in theory i am obbligate to work in a place where i don't need to work.

The only 2 things i could suggest are
1- You should find an immigration lawyer to clear eveything in your head. I did that, too, pay $100 buck for an hour full of question. I had all my question answered within just 30min, instead of asking too many question on the forum with "unsure" answer.
2- call ircc to ask (i think they won't let you quit your recent job until your PR is done)

So, your choice. Be wise in this tough time.

 

[BliPan]

That's not a problem. I have an agency here in Vancouver ( created 1 year ago with a couple of friends). Nothing big (we don't have an office or something, it's just on paper), but i made sufficient money to "live" only with that if i want.

My problem is that i can't leave my first job because, in theory, you need to work in the place that sponsored you with the PNP until you finish the PR application. They said that if you want to leave it you have 90 days to find another job in another company with the same NOC, but in my case it would be useless because the whole point is that i need time to work in my agency, not another company.

On top of that 2 month ago i found out that my company wanted to change office and they are moving 2 hours from my home. I can work remotely sometimes but not everyday, so now my problem is that if i have to do 3 hours (at least) of commute it will be impossibile to work for my agency.
So i'm stuck in this situation where i'm building a business and there's the risk to lose it because in theory i am obbligate to work in a place where i don't need to work.

AFAIK province can check anytime during your application processing time with your employer to verify the information provided with your application. You may be forbidden forever if they find out you application information doesn't match with your current status. If your new business is a life changing moment than you can take the risk, it's up to you to decide.

 

[AlexSBT]

The only 2 things i could suggest are
1- You should find an immigration lawyer to clear eveything in your head. I did that, too, pay $100 buck for an hour full of question. I had all my question answered within just 30min, instead of asking too many question on the forum with "unsure" answer.
2- call ircc to ask (i think they won't let you quit your recent job until your PR is done)

So, your choice. Be wise in this tough time.

Unfortunately i already spoke with a lawyer and the short answer is that, in theory, i have to work in a company with my noc until the PR. There are no solutions for this unfortunately.

But i was trying to understand if and when are possible "checks" on my work situation because if i am sure that after some point they will not check anymore, from there i can leave my job even if in theory i shouldn't.
I know it's not ideal but there are no other solution, next week we'll move to the new office and my problems will start.

And i remember a guy here saying that they usually can check if you are still working between MR and DM

 

[AlexSBT]

AFAIK province can check anytime during your application processing time with your employer to verify the information provided with your application. You may be forbidden forever if they find out you application information doesn't match with your current status. If your new business is a life changing moment than you can take the risk, it's up to you to decide.

Yes i know that in theory they can check anytime, but statistically they don't check or they check only between a specific moment.
It's always a risk obviously but yes, i'm willing to take the risk because i can't lose a whole business only because they need 1-2 years to check my documents.

 

[phanikiran.kara]

My timeline:

AR: August 25 2020
AOR: still nothing

I'm trying to understand something, is there a moment where they check if you are still working in the company where you applied for the PNP?
I'm still there obviously but like i said in another topic i really need to leave that job, so i'm trying to understand if there's a moment where is "secure" to leave my current job (even if i obviously can't find another one until the end of the pr process).

Background checks. Also as per the terms of nomination, you are obligated to tell them immediately if you loose/change job. The employer also has an obligation to report that. They might have already did (if you left them already).

 

[AlexSBT]

Background checks. Also as per the terms of nomination, you are obligated to tell them immediately if you loose/change job. The employer also has an obligation to report that. They might have already did (if you let them already).

When they do the background check usually? I mean, before the MR, DM ecc

 

[td88]

Unfortunately i already spoke with a lawyer and the short answer is that, in theory, i have to work in a company with my noc until the PR. There are no solutions for this unfortunately.

But i was trying to understand if and when are possible "checks" on my work situation because if i am sure that after some point they will not check anymore, from there i can leave my job even if in theory i shouldn't.
I know it's not ideal but there are no other solution, next week we'll move to the new office and my problems will start.

And i remember a guy here saying that they usually can check if you are still working between MR and DM

That will be in Security check (after Medical pass and before DM) which might last for a YEAR long. We can't tell, or guess what IRCC will be doing. If we are misrepresentation, or inadmissible, we'll be banned for 5 years, and will be in the blacklist forever. Worth to try? I'd choose no.

 

[TonytheTiger]

Call Ircc today and having been updated that my "background check" in processing. Anyone knows that how long for the background checking time?
Appreciate!

 

[AlexSBT]

That will be in Security check (after Medical pass and before DM) which might last for a YEAR long. We can't tell, or guess what IRCC will be doing. If we are misrepresentation, or inadmissible, we'll be banned for 5 years, and will be the blacklist forever. Worth to try? I'd choose no.

i'm looking at a spreadsheet with all the timelines of different people, from the AOR to DM there are 3-4 months at max.
Because the "waiting time" starts when you receive the ar, if you receive the AOR after a year, you don't need to wait another year for the MR.
There are some people with the MR and DM in the same month

If the "safe point" is the security check and i should receive the AOR in the next 2-3 weeks, in theory in 3-4 months i should be ok (because my AR was in august 2020)

 

[td88]

Call Ircc today and having been updated that my "background check" in processing. Anyone knows that how long for the background checking time?
Appreciate!

Does Background belong to Security? Security is a misery.

 

[phanikiran.kara]

When they do the background check usually? I mean, before the MR, DM ecc

MR has nothing to do with this. But definitely before DM.

 

[td88]

i'm looking at a spreadsheet with all the timelines of different people, from the AOR to DM there are 3-4 months at max.
Because the "waiting time" starts when you receive the ar, if you receive the AOR after a year, you don't need to wait another year for the MR.
There are some people with the MR and DM in the same month

If the "safe point" is the security check and i should receive the AOR in the next 2-3 weeks, in theory in 3-4 months i should be ok (because my AR was in august 2020)

NOPE, unfortunately.
Lots of people here did medical upfront after AOR,
even their Medical has passed already, Eligibility, Criminality and Security have not Started yet.
They're all diffrence.

 

[phanikiran.kara]

Call Ircc today and having been updated that my "background check" in processing. Anyone knows that how long for the background checking time?
Appreciate!

Never fall for the words "Background checks". BG consists of three parameters - a. Security checks b. Criminality checks c. Information Sharing between member countries called "Info Sharing". The timelines depend on where you are in these three steps. Of course, due to COVID, even if you know in which of these three steps you are, there is no way to know how long would it take. Even if I work for IRCC, I don't think I would know the answer to how long. But usually the security step completion takes the longest (not necessarily because its complicated, could be just because its done in the end usually).

 

[Sandynguyen]

Tomorrow will be 30th day marked from medical passed date, I'm gonna order another GCMS note to see if my Security has started or not.
I've noticed
1/ some cases have security starts right after Medical passed, after one month, the Security will pass
2/ some have security pending (not starts) forever
3/ some rare cases have security pass within a month and have COPR after 5days since Security pass

Meanwhile, there's no GU on my GC key.

I ordered GCMS last week, waiting for the result. I still hope that i will get Corp before GCMS reach 1 month processing time. Hope and luck is important now . We both have similar timeline so March is our lucky month hopefully.

 

[AlexSBT]

NOPE, unfortunately.
Lots of people here did medical upfront after AOR,
even their Medical has passed already, Eligibility, Criminality and Security have not Started yet.
They're all diffrence.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iiPd_haUz0sYdWzMc-9wJtgcjetR-3D7OMr5ditzXbY/edit#gid=0

From here the timeline after the AOR seems very short, every single "AR TO DM" in the list is 10/11 months.
I have 2 friends that did this, and both of them received the copr in 12/13 months after the AR