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legalfalcon

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There are no gaps though. It actually is overlapping my education already..
It's like
PhD from Sept 2012 to dec 2017.
Research assistant Sept 2012 to Feb 2016.
Still should I mention the other other 1.5 yrs ? Like till dec 2017 ( prof issued certificate till only feb2016).

The certificate that was issued, you are claiming point for it. However, you should mention even if it overlapping and you have no certificate and thus not claiming points for it.
 
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HA1986

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The truth is the truth haha. I'd prefer for processing times to be what they were back in 2018, but its a different world. There is literally zero reason to expect that FSW processing will be faster for us than it was in 2019. Set your expectations at a year and maybe we get lucky. They aren't going to issue COPR until the borders open and that isn't happening until everyone is vaccinated.
To be realistic you should give yourself 6-12 months but people are still getting ppr in less then 6 months. I think it also depends on the documentation you provide. If your case is crystal clear then you count on the 6 month timeframe at least least for PPR. Copr is a different ball game but I think most of the people are more concerned about getting PPR.
 
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HA1986

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This is not an accurate statement from that email, extensions can sought even when security screening is not in progress. FAQ's about time extensions
That's exactly what the email says. What's written in the email does not suggest that it's always the case. It mentions that it's "usually" the case. Plus I got the extension email one week before the deadline. I'm hoping it's delayed due to security screening but I can only be sure once I recieve the notes.
 

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To be realistic you should give yourself 6-12 months but people are still getting ppr in less then 6 months. I think it also depends on the documentation you provide. If your case is crystal clear then you count on the 6 month timeframe at least least for PPR. Copr is a different ball game but I think most of the people are more concerned about getting PPR.
Yes. I wouldn't mind waiting for Copr as long as i get PPR. Because then you can relax that it's just a matter of time. Right now, its all uncertain. Who knows what will happen when they eventually start processing our applications. I have adjusted my expectations accordingly. My file is at Ottawa, which is the slowest of the lot. f I get ppr within 12 months of my AOR, ill be happy.
 

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I heard Accra has started returning people’s passports now without the stamp. You would think vaccinations would mean that things would move but no.. it’s just getting worse
Yes, also, I'd like to point out... vaccines only provide immunity for 3 - 8 months... varies person to person and also varies depending on which one you take (Astrazeneca/Pfizer/Other). There is a good possibility, that, by the time September 2021 comes along, people who have been vaccinated might not be immune anymore and may need to be re-vaccinated.
 

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That's exactly what the email says. What's written in the email does not suggest that it's always the case. It mentions that it's "usually" the case. Plus I got the extension email one week before the deadline. I'm hoping it's delayed due to security screening but I can only be sure once I recieve the notes.
Usually or not, that entire statement in that email is false and misleading.

Beyond that's it's just coincidence that file is undergoing security screening and an ATIP extension was taken as well.



from CBSA



We do not take extension for any checks or updates on the applications
. The role of the Access to Information Office is to provide existing documents under the control of the institution.

I have also included below, information regarding extensions as per the Access to Information Act, section 9.

Extension of time limits

9 (1) The head of a government institution may extend the time limit set out in section 7 or subsection 8(1) in respect of a request under this Part for a reasonable period of time, having regard to the circumstances, if

o (a) the request is for a large number of records or necessitates a search through a large number of records and meeting the original time limit would unreasonably interfere with the operations of the government institution,

o (b) consultations are necessary to comply with the request that cannot reasonably be completed within the original time limit, or

o (c) notice of the request is given pursuant to subsection 27(1)

by giving notice of the extension and, in the circumstances set out in paragraph (a) or (b), the length of the extension, to the person who made the request within thirty days after the request is received, which notice shall contain a statement that the person has a right to make a complaint to the Information Commissioner about the extension.

Marginal note: Notice of extension to Information Commissioner

(2) Where the head of a government institution extends a time limit under subsection (1) for more than thirty days, the head of the institution shall give notice of the extension to the Information Commissioner at the same time as notice is given under subsection (1).

Analyst, Strategic Policy Branch
Canada Border Services Agency / Government of Canada
 
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fmlacerda

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Yes, also, I'd like to point out... vaccines only provide immunity for 3 - 8 months... varies person to person and also varies depending on which one you take (Astrazeneca/Pfizer/Other). There is a good possibility, that, by the time September 2021 comes along, people who have been vaccinated might not be immune anymore and may need to be re-vaccinated.
Sorry, that is not true. Immunity duration is unknown as of Feb 2020.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/long-term-protection-covid-19-vaccine-s-immunity-duration-unknown-but-experts-hopeful-1.5263462
 

HA1986

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Usually or not, that entire statement in that email is false and misleading.

Beyond that's it's just coincidence that file is undergoing security screening and an ATIP extension was taken as well.



from CBSA



We do not take extension for any checks or updates on the applications
. The role of the Access to Information Office is to provide existing documents under the control of the institution.

I have also included below, information regarding extensions as per the Access to Information Act, section 9.

Extension of time limits

9 (1) The head of a government institution may extend the time limit set out in section 7 or subsection 8(1) in respect of a request under this Part for a reasonable period of time, having regard to the circumstances, if

o (a) the request is for a large number of records or necessitates a search through a large number of records and meeting the original time limit would unreasonably interfere with the operations of the government institution,

o (b) consultations are necessary to comply with the request that cannot reasonably be completed within the original time limit, or

o (c) notice of the request is given pursuant to subsection 27(1)

by giving notice of the extension and, in the circumstances set out in paragraph (a) or (b), the length of the extension, to the person who made the request within thirty days after the request is received, which notice shall contain a statement that the person has a right to make a complaint to the Information Commissioner about the extension.

Marginal note: Notice of extension to Information Commissioner

(2) Where the head of a government institution extends a time limit under subsection (1) for more than thirty days, the head of the institution shall give notice of the extension to the Information Commissioner at the same time as notice is given under subsection (1).

Analyst, Strategic Policy Branch
Canada Border Services Agency / Government of Canada
Hmm! So either the person who emailed me is a noob or the company is taking me for a ride. Great! Don't really care though as long as I get the notes. Not going to get ppr anytime soon anyway. Anyway, If I understand correctly you're trying to point out that technically it's not CBSA asking for extension but some other government body or HOI?
 

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To be realistic you should give yourself 6-12 months but people are still getting ppr in less then 6 months. I think it also depends on the documentation you provide. If your case is crystal clear then you count on the 6 month timeframe at least least for PPR. Copr is a different ball game but I think most of the people are more concerned about getting PPR.
I am just frustrated by two things
1. People spreading misinformation on this forum. I don't think people are doing it maliciously, but it gives people false hope for timing
2. FSW people making repeated calls to IRCC just months after AOR. There is no reason to do this, it does not help you, there is no reason to expect significant progress, and it puts demands on IRCC which will increase processing time and could even lead to policy changes if it becomes too disruptive.

We all need to hang in there together! Unfortunately we do not have control over this. Let's be patient, not put pressure on IRCC, and hopefully we can all go out for some beers later this year :)
 
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fmlacerda

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I am just frustrated by two things
1. People spreading misinformation on this forum. I don't think people are doing it maliciously, but it gives people false hope for timing
2. FSW people making repeated calls to IRCC just months after AOR. There is no reason to do this, it does not help you, there is no reason to expect significant progress, and it puts demands on IRCC which will increase processing time and could even lead to policy changes if it becomes too disruptive.

We all need to hang in there together! Unfortunately we do not have control over this. Let's be patient, not put pressure on IRCC, and hopefully we can all go out for some beers later this year :)
So you think that the call center agents process the applications? o_O
 
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guelphite

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So you think that the call center agents process the applications? o_O
Wow - you have discovered an unlimited resource of caffeinated Canadian government employees!

Actually, that is very stupid and does not exist. If you were just wasting your time, I wouldn't care as much. But you're wasting time for all of us.

1. The government only has so much money. If they are forced to spend that on call centre staffing to deal with useless requests, that could constrain resources spent for application processing.

2. Sometimes people will actually need to contact IRCC about their application. Perhaps it has been 12 months. Because of all the Very Smart People like you, who think they have discovered an unlimited supply call centre agents, now those reasonable status requests will take much longer to process.

This isn't a joke. People repeatedly calling IRCC about their FSW application only months after AOR are wasting resources that *all* of us need. Let's stand together and only make reasonable requests on IRCC.
 

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Hmm! So either the person who emailed me is a noob or the company is taking me for a ride. Great! Don't really care though as long as I get the notes. Not going to get ppr anytime soon anyway. Anyway, If I understand correctly you're trying to point out that technically it's not CBSA asking for extension but some other government body or HOI?
Probably the latter, taking you for a ride. Also, happy coincidences don't substitute for what the stated facts are. May be your application is indeed undergoing security review and the time extension in that case is a mere coincidence.

You are right, as long as you receive the notes that's what is more pertinent.

The explanation applies to the notes whether you receive it from the ATIP division of IRCC, CBSA etc. There is a department in these agencies that provides these notes and it's called the ATIP department or ATIP division.

All the best with the PR
 
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fmlacerda

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Wow - you have discovered an unlimited resource of caffeinated Canadian government employees!

Actually, that is very stupid and does not exist. If you were just wasting your time, I wouldn't care as much. But you're wasting time for all of us.

1. The government only has so much money. If they are forced to spend that on call centre staffing to deal with useless requests, that could constrain resources spent for application processing.

2. Sometimes people will actually need to contact IRCC about their application. Perhaps it has been 12 months. Because of all the Very Smart People like you, who think they have discovered an unlimited supply call centre agents, now those reasonable status requests will take much longer to process.

This isn't a joke. People repeatedly calling IRCC about their FSW application only months after AOR are wasting resources that *all* of us need. Let's stand together and only make reasonable requests on IRCC.
Yes, I am smart, thank you.

1. Considering that I paid CAD 2,600 for that application, it is absolutely reasonable to be able to call and ask for the current processing status, especially when the website is inconsistent. Oh, they are not forced to spend on call centre staffing, they could improve the website ;)
2. Nobody's call impact processing time and I never had to wait more than 15 minutes to speak to an agent who happily answered my questions in 5 minutes. What you said is nonsense, just like the other comment you made.