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Is PGD worth it? Honest opinions?

life2525

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Is a PGD really worth it after having only a bachelors? In terms of getting a job and then eventually a settling in Canada? Honest opinions? For someone with no work experience.

I mean in 3 years PGWP, one can definitely find a field job?

PS. my course does not have co - op.
 
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Ironclad

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Only worth it if you know what you are getting yourself into i.e you have connections in Canada, the right experience & knowledge etc. I have seen many freshers from my University where I did my engineering returning back from Toronto after doing PGD. 3 years of PGWP was spent for tourism and sightseeing. Right now Ontario is doomed by COVID-19 and the job prospects are even more pounded by COVID-19. Just sharing a dose of reality, it's up to you make the decision. It's doubtful even if one has the experience. Not only PGD as I even came to know of some Master degree students being jobless. 3 day 2000$ quarantine is the cherry on the top. Only a few places in Canada are unaffected by COVID-19.
 
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life2525

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Only worth it if you know what your getting yourself into i.e you have connections in Canada, the right experience & knowledge etc. I have seen many freshers from my University where I did my engineering returning back from Toronto after doing PGD. 3 years of PGWP was spent for tourism and sightseeing. Right now Ontario is doomed by COVID-19 and the job prospects are even more pounded by COVID-19. Just sharing a dose of reality, it's up to you make the decision. It's doubtful even if one has the experience. Not only PGD as I even came to know of some Master degree students being jobless. 3 day 2000$ quarantine is the cherry on the top. Only a few places in Canada are unaffected by COVID-19.
I have a 3 year under-graduation bachelors. Would be going for a PGD, no experience, no connections in Canada and no co-op in my program. 3 year PGWP. Stuck in a dilemma not knowing if I can secure a creditable job.
 

Ironclad

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I have a 3 year under-graduation bachelors. Would be going for a PGD, no experience, no connections in Canada and no co-op in my program. 3 year PGWP. Stuck in a dilemma not knowing if I can secure a creditable job.
If money is not a problem then go for it, at least you will get some exposure. Later on you can do Masters if the situation demands it.
 

Impatient Dankaroo

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Any one else have opinions on a PGD?
What do you want to know? It's worse than a Master's in every single way except for maybe the fact that it's not rigorous at all so you can work a part time without worrying about your academics. Your classmates will mostly be students who have poor academics and can't speak English. If you can secure a good co-op then it will increase your chances of a job but not everyone gets a co-op. After you graduate you are competing in a market with the highest educated people per capita plus a whole load of desperate intl students.
 

life2525

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For every success story there are 4 others that are driving uber, doing doordash. These people will need move to Winnipeg or Saskachetwan and become fast food manager to get their PR
But ultimately all international students manage to get PR right? Are there any statistics on this or any posts on this forum that a student did a PGD and didn't manage to get a PR even doing irrelevant NOC jobs?
 

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But ultimately all international students manage to get PR right? Are there any statistics on this or any posts on this forum that a student did a PGD and didn't manage to get a PR even doing irrelevant NOC jobs?
There's no statistic but no, not everyone gets PR, many return back home
 

Ironclad

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It's true that the majority return back home. I have seen it with my own eyes, recently my friend came back from Prince Edward island and initially he graduated PGD from Lambton. Though he was eligible for the extra 1.5 year open work permit, he did not apply for it. Being honest here, if the truth was available in the open everyone would had been more aware or saved by now.
 

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Alright, thanks
If advanced level education is not an option for you then obviously you have to choose a PGD program. If you do then you can make life easier by:
  • Doing a PGD program at a university, not college
  • Doing one with a Co-Op program
  • Going to a a more well known college, if you do e.g. George Brown, Humber, Seneca, Centennial
 
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life2525

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It's true that the majority return back home. I have seen it with my own eyes, recently my friend came back from Prince Edward island and initially he graduated PGD from Lambton. Though he was eligible for the extra 1.5 year open work permit, he did not apply for it. Being honest here, if the truth was available in the open everyone would had been more aware or saved by now.
But what I don't get is, if you get a PGD and 1 year canadian experience, you easily have enough points for CEC..?

If advanced level education is not an option for you then obviously you have to choose a PGD program. If you do then you can make life easier by:
  • Doing a PGD program at a university, not college
  • Doing one with a Co-Op program
  • Going to a a more well known college, if you do e.g. George Brown, Humber, Seneca, Centennial
If I was to do a PGD it would be at the one I got, as I don't want to waste time till September intake for such a low credential. Mine also doesn't have co-op.
 

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But what I don't get is, if you get a PGD and 1 year canadian experience, you easily have enough points for CEC..?



If I was to do a PGD it would be at the one I got, as I don't want to waste time till September intake for such a low credential. Mine also doesn't have co-op.
Where and what program?
 

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But what I don't get is, if you get a PGD and 1 year canadian experience, you easily have enough points for CEC..?



If I was to do a PGD it would be at the one I got, as I don't want to waste time till September intake for such a low credential. Mine also doesn't have co-op.
You are assuming you get hired the day you get your pgwp. What if you can't find a job? You don't get points for Canadian work experience if you have no Canadian work experience.