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[bobrovsky07]

Any Oct2019 AOR who is residing in India got any good news? Canadian embassy in India has started some limited PPRs

 

[jokerdurden]

AOR - October 9th 2019,
PPR - October 2nd 2020.
Today status updated to approved. Waiting for the PPR to be mailed back to me.

Medicals were extended a couple of days before October 2nd 2010. Got a mail that status was updated and the request letter was in the applications page.

Got another email today that status has been updated, and it said that the application was approved.

Congrats! Same Aor as mine. What’s your Vo and steam?

 

[phoenix_anderson]

Hey guys. AOR 2019, still waiting for the PPR with everything met/approved.

Have a question about travel restrictions for outland applicants. Maybe @legalfalcon or some other experienced guys can help

My spouse is currently residing in US (primary applicant on F1 student visa) and I am in GCC.

1. Assuming that we receive a PPR and eventually our PR visas, my spouse can do the landing on the grounds that US residents are exempt from restrictions. Correct?
2. Assuming that the first question is correct, does this mean that I can travel after my spouse is landed on the grounds that my spouse is a Permanent Resident and we want to unite as immediate family members? Or do I have to wait because I am going to land as a PR as well and thus I can't be exempt from restrictions?

 

[legalfalcon]

Hey guys. AOR 2019, still waiting for the PPR with everything met/approved.

Have a question about travel restrictions for outland applicants. Maybe @legalfalcon or some other experienced guys can help

My spouse is currently residing in US (primary applicant on F1 student visa) and I am in GCC.

1. Assuming that we receive a PPR and eventually our PR visas, my spouse can do the landing on the grounds that US residents are exempt from restrictions. Correct?
2. Assuming that the first question is correct, does this mean that I can travel after my spouse is landed on the grounds that my spouse is a Permanent Resident and we want to unite as immediate family members? Or do I have to wait because I am going to land as a PR as well and thus I can't be exempt from restrictions?

IRCC is currently emphasising that all family members should land together with an intention to make Canada their permanent home. Also, the dependent family members cannot land before the primary applicant does.

The family reunification is for people who want to come to canada to reunite and need a Temporary visa or an authorisation to travel, which they other would not due to travel restrictions. It is not for dependents already in the application whose application is approved or in progress. Also, to request an authorisation to travel and seek exemption under family reunification you have to follow the procedure outlined in the IRCC policy

See https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/service-delivery/coronavirus/travel-restrictions.html#family-reunification

However, if a person is in Canada as a PR / citizen or on a TRV and has their sponsorship application in progress to sponsor a family member, then the sponsored family member can file a TRV and seek exemption to travel.

IRCC allows dual intent:

Subsection A22(2) states: “An intention by a foreign national to become a permanent resident does not preclude them from becoming a temporary resident if the officer is satisfied that they will leave Canada by the end of the period authorized for their stay”. Dual intent on the part of the applicant is therefore not prima facie grounds for refusal of temporary resident status.

 

[phoenix_anderson]

IRCC is currently emphasising that all family members should land together with an intention to make Canada their permanent home.

This is our ideal goal, but I don't think it would be possible in the common circumstances. Also, we don't want to do any soft landings so even if we land separately we want to land properly and stay in Canada.

Also, the dependent family members cannot land before the primary applicant does.

Yes, I am aware of this and my spouse, being the main applicant will land before me.

See https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/service-delivery/coronavirus/travel-restrictions.html#family-reunification

From the link it says that:

The objective of this exemption is to facilitate unity of immediate family members who have or would be separated as a result of these travel restrictions. Migration officers and case processing officers are to assess the circumstances surrounding the foreign national’s travel prior to authorizing in writing that the foreign national is exempt under this provision. As noted above, the officer must be satisfied that the foreign national is not travelling for an optional or discretionary purpose.

So does this mean that it would be on officer's discretion?

However, if a person is in Canada as a PR / citizen or on a TRV and has their sponsorship application in progress to sponsor a family member, then the sponsored family member can file a TRV and seek exemption to travel.

IRCC allows dual intent:

Subsection A22(2) states: “An intention by a foreign national to become a permanent resident does not preclude them from becoming a temporary resident if the officer is satisfied that they will leave Canada by the end of the period authorized for their stay”. Dual intent on the part of the applicant is therefore not prima facie grounds for refusal of temporary resident status.

Sorry, this one is for TRV/temporary visit, right? Assuming that we both receives our COPRs and the PR single entry visas how would TRV be applicable? Also, it says "has their sponsorship application in progress to sponsor a family member" but we applied under one EE application (and our application was calculated under the assumption that we will come together and not separately) and our Ready for Visa and etc will come at the same time, no? I am not applying though a separate sponsorship application.

 

[legalfalcon]

This is our ideal goal, but I don't think it would be possible in the common circumstances. Also, we don't want to do any soft landings so even if we land separately we want to land properly and stay in Canada.



Yes, I am aware of this and my spouse, being the main applicant will land before me.



From the link it says that


Sorry, this one is for TRV/temporary visit, right? Assuming that we both receives our COPRs and the PR single entry visas how would TRV be applicable? Also, it says "has their sponsorship application in progress to sponsor a family member" but we applied under one EE application (and our application was calculated under the assumption that we will come together and not separately) and our Ready for Visa and etc will come at the same time, no? I am not applying though a separate sponsorship application.

The objective of this exemption is to facilitate unity of immediate family members who have or would be separated as a result of these travel restrictions. Migration officers and case processing officers are to assess the circumstances surrounding the foreign national’s travel prior to authorizing in writing that the foreign national is exempt under this provision. As noted above, the officer must be satisfied that the foreign national is not travelling for an optional or discretionary purpose.

So does this mean that it would be on officer's discretion?

YEs, most decision that are subjective the deference is given to the officer's, however, they have to base their decision on well established procedures, operational manuals, bulletins, and the decisions of the federal court and the Immigration and Refugee Board.

Sorry, this one is for TRV/temporary visit, right? Assuming that we both receives our COPRs and the PR single entry visas how would TRV be applicable? Also, it says "has their sponsorship application in progress to sponsor a family member" but we applied under one EE application (and our application was calculated under the assumption that we will come together and not separately) and our Ready for Visa and etc will come at the same time, no? I am not applying though a separate sponsorship application.

Yes, this is why I clarified that you do not fall under the exemption. For the exemption to apply, one of the family members should be in Canada. As of now neither of your åre in Canada. Also, IRCC is emphasising that they family members should land together.

The family reunification is for people who want to come to canada to reunite and need a Temporary visa or an authorisation to travel, which they other would not due to travel restrictions. It is not for dependents already in the application whose application is approved or in progress.

 

[phoenix_anderson]

Yes, this is why I clarified that you do not fall under the exemption. For the exemption to apply, one of the family members should be in Canada. As of now neither of your åre in Canada. Also, IRCC is emphasising that they family members should land together.

Thanks for the answer. I understand that IRCC encourages everyone to land together. However, I also do understand why its more of a recommendation rather than a rule because not everyone can travel together for multiple reasons, albeit this would be a low percentage of applicants. Looks like we might have to contact IRCC once we get the PPR and COPR and explain the situation and take it from there.

One step at a time.

 

[tapioca]

Did any outland applicant get PPR applying through FSW stream in this thread?
Looks and feels like FSW-Outlands are being left behind.

 

[siddsin]

Congrats! Same Aor as mine. What’s your Vo and steam?

VO on the GCMS was showing as Montreal. Stream - FSW - Outland

 

[legalfalcon]

Thanks for the answer. I understand that IRCC encourages everyone to land together. However, I also do understand why its more of a recommendation rather than a rule because not everyone can travel together for multiple reasons, albeit this would be a low percentage of applicants. Looks like we might have to contact IRCC once we get the PPR and COPR and explain the situation and take it from there.

One step at a time.

The rule was very clear earlier that the PA could land and then the family members later at their time of choosing, before the PR visa and COPR expire. However, die to COVID on multiple IRCC communications IRCC has encouraged that all the family members land together. This is a guideline, but how the officer's at the port of entry or at IRCC decide to enforce will depend on them on a case by case basis.

If you hear back from IRCC on this, or are able to get a clarification, please share it with us.

 

[victor101]

Sharing my timeline guys

AOR : October 27, 2019
Medical approved: November 2019
Additional requirement ( Police certificate ) request: February 2020
Background check completed: March 2020
PPR: March 2020
Application approved: April 2020
Landing Confirmation through email (Etobicoke): June 2020
Received PR Card: October 2020

Good luck guys

 

[legalfalcon]

Sharing my timeline guys

AOR : October 27, 2019
Medical approved: November 2019
Additional requirement ( Police certificate ) request: February 2020
Background check completed: March 2020
PPR: March 2020
Application approved: April 2020
Landing Confirmation through email (Etobicoke): June 2020
Received PR Card: October 2020

Good luck guys

Congratulations!! All the best for your journey ahead!

 

[phoenix_anderson]

The rule was very clear earlier that the PA could land and then the family members later at their time of choosing, before the PR visa and COPR expire. However, die to COVID on multiple IRCC communications IRCC has encouraged that all the family members land together. This is a guideline, but how the officer's at the port of entry or at IRCC decide to enforce will depend on them on a case by case basis.

If you hear back from IRCC on this, or are able to get a clarification, please share it with us.

Will definitely do. Thanks.

 

[Sri.16oct]

Hello guys,
Any Indian who received ppr after they announced the passport submission through courier service?

 

[Hemilshah80]

Hello guys,
Any Indian who received ppr after they announced the passport submission through courier service?

All Indian residents are on hold at the moment , However Indian Nationals residing in other countries have started receiving PPRs from their Local visa office.