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Aspiring Canadian

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If anything seniors need to an up to date medical because their health may have changed after 1 year. What you are suggesting will give a large amount of parents or grandparents PR in addition to a PGP program when it restarts. There is a cap on PGP application for a reason so increasing the number of parents and grandparents approved doesn’t make sense. Extending a supervisa is an option for those wanting to try and remain in Canada longer.
Yes those are all excellent points. My counter argument would be that in the interest of easing pressure on the next pgp announcement/process one of the ways to ease pressure and being more fair to the applicants could be to regularize temporary supervisa holders as a one time covid exception. This would free up capacity in the already constrained pgp spots. IRCC has already implemented forgoing the requirement for biometrics for PR if an applicant has ever given them in the past ten years. This would be approached from an ease of workload perspective on the already stretched out resources at the immigration dept due to the pandemic.
 

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I wish I were good with statistical measurement techniques as I would love to analyze how many parents are currently in Canada on a supervisa and how much pressure it could ease towards the pgp program and the immigration depts resources by allowing them for a chance to stay permanently. The same number of applicants are going to get back in line and apply for PR anyways through pgp thus increasing the workload and wasting valuable resources that can be utilized elsewhere.
 

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Yes those are all excellent points. My counter argument would be that in the interest of easing pressure on the next pgp announcement/process one of the ways to ease pressure and being more fair to the applicants could be to regularize temporary supervisa holders as a one time covid exception. This would free up capacity in the already constrained pgp spots. IRCC has already implemented forgoing the requirement for biometrics for PR if an applicant has ever given them in the past ten years. This would be approached from an ease of workload perspective on the already stretched out resources at the immigration dept due to the pandemic.
Many parents will have already done a biometric and will not need to do another one. There is pressure on PGP because Canada wants/needs to limit how many seniors can immigrate. Covid is a temporary situation. A supervisa extension will allow most patents to remain in Canada until it is safer to return to their home country. Many provinces have even decided to cover the cost of covid care and testing for FN.
 

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Plenty of birth tourist don’t actually cover their healthcare costs especially if their child ends up in the NICU. There are bills for hundreds of thousand dollars that go unpaid. There are also smaller bills that also don’t get paid. People arrive at the hospital in labour and the hospital can’t turn them away or ask for a deposit or prepayment.
There was also a case in this forum that a poster cannot pay the healthcare cost for his/her parent/grandparent and bills were not paid fully. Likely there are more people with similar cases.
 

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I wish I were good with statistical measurement techniques as I would love to analyze how many parents are currently in Canada on a supervisa and how much pressure it could ease towards the pgp program and the immigration depts resources by allowing them for a chance to stay permanently. The same number of applicants are going to get back in line and apply for PR anyways through pgp thus increasing the workload and wasting valuable resources that can be utilized elsewhere.
Not sure why you are so focused on the backlongs at CIC. Processing any form of immigration will take resources. What is important is the estimated costs to care for all these seniors. That is the important figure that the federal and provincial governments will focus on.
 

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There was also a case in this forum that a poster cannot pay the healthcare cost for his/her parent/grandparent and bills were not paid fully. Likely there are more people with similar cases.
Yes there are many cases like this. The cost of care can increase rapidly. The supervisa insurance should really include medical repatriation.
 

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On a related note. When this does reopen what do you guys think is a fair method to determine who gets in line for a spot for the interest to sponsor form. It seems like they Should look at an equitable approach rather than a lottery or first come first serve. One suggestion I have is perhaps look at how long the sponsor has been in Canada and filed taxes. Length of time spent in Canada and taxes filed seems more fair than first come first serve or lottery.
 

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To add to my previous post I’m aware that 3 years of noa’s are required. I’m suggesting perhaps giving priority to someone that has ten compared to the bare minimum 3.
 

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And what do you think the voters in this country would think if the Government suddenly started a influx of seniors into the country during a pandemic , when it’s been shown that the provinces can’t adequately take care of senior citizens already here ? Or that the waitlist to see specialists for some issues is now YEARS ?
People here seem to forget , economic immigration is one thing , a program that allows seniors into the country , is totally different. Adding, most Canadians aren’t even aware there is such a program
And once again, could someone please post a link where the PGP program is in legislation or guaranteed to be held each year?
The reason it’s never been posted , because it’s not
As suggested by the other poster, petition and protest are to increase people awareness of things e.g. such a program exist in Canada. Canadians should not be put in the dark.
 
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On a related note. When this does reopen what do you guys think is a fair method to determine who gets in line for a spot for the interest to sponsor form. It seems like they Should look at an equitable approach rather than a lottery or first come first serve. One suggestion I have is perhaps look at how long the sponsor has been in Canada and filed taxes. Length of time spent in Canada and taxes filed seems more fair than first come first serve or lottery.
No news when PGP may restart. There will be a change in how applicants are selected. I also think that time as a taxpayer in Canada would be a good way to determine who qualify and have been suggesting it for years. We’ll all need to wait and see. Until covid and the economy is less of an issue I would assume that PGP is on the back burner. The priority will be to catch up on spousal sponsorship after the delays in processing and economic immigration to try to get out of the recession.
 
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To add to my previous post I’m aware that 3 years of noa’s are required. I’m suggesting perhaps giving priority to someone that has ten compared to the bare minimum 3.
Why not before people being approved for permenant residents? Currently, they can include their spouse and dependent childrent in the application. Why not add their parents or grandparents in that application too?
 

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Why not before people being approved for permenant residents? Currently, they can include their spouse and dependent childrent in the application. Why not add their parents or grandparents in that application too?
Canada wants young people/families to immigrate due to our ageing demographic. It would not make sense to include parents like dependent children on a PR application. If one child could apply with 2 parents it would be adding to the problem of an ageing demographic.
 
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How long do they approve extensions for these days? Is it always one year at a time? My parents arrived on August 2019. Visa officer allowed them two year stay.

on a similar note if they arrived in August 2019 and were allowed a two year stay when should I send in a request for extension ? The supervisa itself is valid for four years so thats not an issue
 

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How long do they approve extensions for these days? Is it always one year at a time? My parents arrived on August 2019. Visa officer allowed them two year stay.

on a similar note if they arrived in August 2019 and were allowed a two year stay when should I send in a request for extension ? The supervisa itself is valid for four years so thats not an issue
My guess is June 2021