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su_mmer

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Hi,

I’m a British citizen and my fiancé is a Canadian citizen. We’ve been together for a year and our wedding (Nikah) was going to be this year June, he was going to come here to the UK. However, because of covid, that isn’t happening anymore.

Canada is allowing spouses to enter but we aren’t married yet. International flights will soon be stopped.

What is our best option? If he comes here and we get our Nikah done (the UK is not registering marriages at the moment), can we both get into Canada?

Any help would be greatly appreciated
 

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Hi,

I’m a British citizen and my fiancé is a Canadian citizen. We’ve been together for a year and our wedding (Nikah) was going to be this year June, he was going to come here to the UK. However, because of covid, that isn’t happening anymore.

Canada is allowing spouses to enter but we aren’t married yet. International flights will soon be stopped.

What is our best option? If he comes here and we get our Nikah done (the UK is not registering marriages at the moment), can we both get into Canada?

Any help would be greatly appreciated
Canada is allowing spouses and common law partners to enter. If you are not yet married yet, they you aren't spouses. To be common law parnters, you must have lived together for at least one year. If you are not common law and haven't lived together for a full year, then yes - you would need to get married in the UK in order for you to be able to board a plane to Canada under the current travel restrictions.

Note that Canada generally reviews Nikah as an engagement rather than marriage for immigration purposes. You generally also need to also complete Rukhsati to be considered as married for immigration purposes (e.g. to apply for spousal sponsorship). I don't know if Nikah alone will be enough to allow you to board a plane.
 

su_mmer

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Thank you! Yes of course we were also going to do Rukhsati. But would a Nikah certificate be enough to get me on a plane and enter Canada?
Obviously we would do all the application process once in Canada.
 

scylla

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Thank you! Yes of course we were also going to do Rukhsati. But would a Nikah certificate be enough to get me on a plane and enter Canada?
Obviously we would do all the application process once in Canada.
I don't think any of us can tell you that. For Canadian immigration purposes, Nikah is generally regarded as an engagement. You need Rukhsati to be viewed as married.
 

su_mmer

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The Rukhsati is simply the girl leaving her home/family to begin her new life. There is no document for it. The fact you go to live with your husband is the Rukhsati.
 

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Thank you! Yes of course we were also going to do Rukhsati. But would a Nikah certificate be enough to get me on a plane and enter Canada?
Obviously we would do all the application process once in Canada.
Unlike predominantly Muslim countries, as per UK law, the nikah is not considered a legal marriage. Without a legal UK marriage certificate, you would likely not be allowed to board the plane. Also note that it means that the marriage would not be valid for sponsorship purposes because in order for Canada to recognize a marriage as legal, it must be a legal marriage as per the laws in the country where it occurs. You would need to legally marry prior to sponsoring.
 

akbarz

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Thank you! Yes of course we were also going to do Rukhsati. But would a Nikah certificate be enough to get me on a plane and enter Canada?
Obviously we would do all the application process once in Canada.
As mentioned above, in order for you to be able to be allowed to board the plane you would need to provide a marriage certificate. In the UK, nikah is not registered and a legal civil marriage needs to be done. I'm assuming those offices are currently closed?

We decided to forgo getting married in UK because they required a separate civil ceremony and it was just easier to get married in Canada, where Nikah is recognized as long as the person performing it is registered to do so.

My husband was able to board his flight by showing his marriage certificate and answering a few questions, but that did not give special privileges to stay here. If it wasn't for emergency purposes I would have asked him to stay in the UK, as his application is in process. EU citizens and UK holders only need an eTA to enter but there is a limit to how long they can stay. We also have our PR application in process as well. So he will be leaving, he can not just stay here. The entry requirements due to the Covid-19 situation do not change the fact that he has no legal right to stay in Canada past his time according to what passport he holds - this was told to us by the immigration officer.
 
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As mentioned above, in order for you to be able to be allowed to board the plane you would need to provide a marriage certificate. In the UK, nikah is not registered and a legal civil marriage needs to be done. I'm assuming those offices are currently closed?

We decided to forgo getting married in UK because they required a separate civil ceremony and it was just easier to get married in Canada, where Nikah is recognized as long as the person performing it is registered to do so.

My husband was able to board his flight by showing his marriage certificate and answering a few questions, but that did not give special privileges to stay here. If it wasn't for emergency purposes I would have asked him to stay in the UK, as his application is in process. EU citizens and UK holders only need an eTA to enter but there is a limit to how long they can stay. We also have our PR application in process as well. So he will be leaving, he can not just stay here. The entry requirements due to the Covid-19 situation do not change the fact that he has no legal right to stay in Canada past his time according to what passport he holds - this was told to us by the immigration officer.
Your husband can just apply to extend his visitor status.
 

canuck78

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As mentioned above, in order for you to be able to be allowed to board the plane you would need to provide a marriage certificate. In the UK, nikah is not registered and a legal civil marriage needs to be done. I'm assuming those offices are currently closed?

We decided to forgo getting married in UK because they required a separate civil ceremony and it was just easier to get married in Canada, where Nikah is recognized as long as the person performing it is registered to do so.

My husband was able to board his flight by showing his marriage certificate and answering a few questions, but that did not give special privileges to stay here. If it wasn't for emergency purposes I would have asked him to stay in the UK, as his application is in process. EU citizens and UK holders only need an eTA to enter but there is a limit to how long they can stay. We also have our PR application in process as well. So he will be leaving, he can not just stay here. The entry requirements due to the Covid-19 situation do not change the fact that he has no legal right to stay in Canada past his time according to what passport he holds - this was told to us by the immigration officer.
Assume you completed the Nikah and the Rukhsati before sending of your spousal sponsorship. We have seen others get denied because they haven’t completed both and have sent off the application right after the Nikah. CIC will considered you married when you are able to live together alone as husband and wife and have lived together as husband and wife.
 
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akbarz

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Assume you completed the Nikah and the Rukhsati before sending of your spousal sponsorship. We have seen others get denied because they haven’t completed both and have sent off the application right after the Nikah. CIC will considered you married when you are able to live together alone as husband and wife and have lived together as husband and wife.
Actually we never wanted a religious ceremony (nikah) because of different beliefs/background so we had a civil ceremony only when we sent application in. But we had traveled together alone prior to and now after the wedding as well. Staying together is the next step once I finish my degree.

My husband's mother asked us to have a Nikah at home with just family for them but we haven't decided if we want to. For us our ceremony was it.
 

canuck78

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Actually we never wanted a religious ceremony (nikah) because of different beliefs/background so we had a civil ceremony only when we sent application in. But we had traveled together alone prior to and now after the wedding as well. Staying together is the next step once I finish my degree.

My husband's mother asked us to have a Nikah at home with just family for them but we haven't decided if we want to. For us our ceremony was it.
Did your families attend your ceremony. Did you live together after your wedding? Why did you not live together and apply inland? By only doing the Nikah which it sounds like you did do that also leaves things partially finished in the eyes of CIC. You may run into problems doing a civil ceremony just to start the sponsorship process. Very hard to predict some of the cases.
 
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akbarz

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Did your families attend your ceremony. Did you live together after your wedding? Why did you not live together and apply inland? You may run into problems doing a civil ceremony just to start the sponsorship process.
Well i explained this thoroughly in the application when we submitted it.
But the main takeaways are:
Both of us are from different sects and grew up differently (family/country). So instead of arguing over which officiant from which side would marry us we kept it neutral and chose a civil ceremony.
We lived together after the wedding but he had to go back as he cannot work in Canada and I had a year of my degree left.
His mother lived in Pakistan at the time and could not come for wedding, his father and brother disapproved of marriage and relationship.
My father had passed, my mother was in attendance.
My siblings did not agree with my relationship either so they were never invited.

It was supposed to be a civil ceremony with my mother, grandmother and friends followed by a dinner thrown from my mother.

My grandfather passed 2 weeks before wedding (he was getting sicker for 2 months - so i have emails of me telling my vendors that we might have to cancel wedding if it came to close).

My mother asked me and husband to cancel wedding, she then asked us to have the wedding since he was coming already and we had payed for mostly everything and just to not have a big celebration after the wedding. My friends were understanding that it was my mothers father and she was our supporter throughout our 4 year relationship so we had to be respectful of her feelings. I then saw him over my break and lived with him in England for 2 weeks and now will go again once situation clears up with covid. I had applied back in December so I'm hoping to show genuine relationships by providing more of our recent visits that happened post submission.

Thats the main points - we didn't do a civil ceremony to just start the process, that was our wedding. It was unfortunate circumstances but i mean i didnt plan on having a large wedding regardless and with so much of our family not okay with our union it didnt make sense.

I did realize it was not usual for people of pakistani background to not have large affairs or religious weddings but i also explained that i grew up here and we have non traditional values so it made sense for us to go this route. Furthermore, us traveling togther 6 times after our initial meeting and living together on these trips was also unorthodox so while im sure they will question it, there was really no other choice for us.
 

akbarz

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Did your families attend your ceremony. Did you live together after your wedding? Why did you not live together and apply inland? By only doing the Nikah which it sounds like you did do that also leaves things partially finished in the eyes of CIC. You may run into problems doing a civil ceremony just to start the sponsorship process. Very hard to predict some of the cases.
I actually was not sure how I could have him stay here and apply inland as he can only stay here a few months without visa (only eTa). So to lessen the confusion we did outland. Plus he still needed to work to save up for our move and I was in my degree full time so we did outland
 

Konan1982

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Hi,

I’m a British citizen and my fiancé is a Canadian citizen. We’ve been together for a year and our wedding (Nikah) was going to be this year June, he was going to come here to the UK. However, because of covid, that isn’t happening anymore.

Canada is allowing spouses to enter but we aren’t married yet. International flights will soon be stopped.

What is our best option? If he comes here and we get our Nikah done (the UK is not registering marriages at the moment), can we both get into Canada?

Any help would be greatly appreciated
is Nikah a religious ritual?