I am afraid you are not quite informed about the hiring process in Canada of immigrants. It is virtually impossible to obtain a Canadian job offer for a skilled foreign worker outside of Canada without residence in Canada, permanent or temporary. Most job offers require an LMIA which is a whole other story. Then a huge majority of jobs require current work authorization in Canada. I cannot agree more with the guy you replied to: It makes a million times more sense for Canada to let applicants apply for work and temporary residence permits than PR which in most cases requires a job offer. It is the job offer that makes it virtually impossible not the rest of the PR requirements. If the argument really was labor shortage then Canada should more efficiently process work permit applications and drop the stupid LMIA requirements. Either there is a labor shortage in a region for a specific NOC or there is not. Work permits can be issued for specific employers or in specific cities or regions or provinces. If there is a labor shortage for NOC XXXX in region XXX then why does Canada still require an LMIA of employers in that specific region in that province? Makes zero sense.
Northern Rural Immigration Pilot Program
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Even with a current work authorization it is very very very hard to get a job offer from outside of Canada. I am really trying my best but I think I have to move first and find my job in person. This is much more easy from my experience.
I hear you and wish you good luck with your job search process. The problem you describe, though, applies to every job seeker situation world-wide, who has work authorization. Generally, employers prefer to speak to prospects in person. If they are desperate in wanting to fill the position and there is a shortage of labor supply some might be willing to speak with applicants over the phone or skype. This is the general situation.
Unfortunately, there are tons of smaller companies that are unethical and act outright illegally by considering only applicants of very specific ethnic backgrounds (Indian companies stand out here, also Chinese ones), although it is illegal by Canadian labor law to discriminate based on race. They hardly ever have an issue to speak with applicants from the other ends of the world over the phone or video chat. Sometimes they receive kickbacks for hiring specific people, at other times it's a "same-race preference". At other times its a "let's do a favor for the son of the aunty of the friend" kind of thing. Sadly, its often very difficult for law enforcement to collect evidence in order to take action. I have zero tolerance for such behavior and I vowed myself to always report to law enforcement such behavior if I ever come across actionable information. It is grossly unfair to everyone else and hypocritical: The same people who wanted to be fairly treated without discrimination when they applied to live in Canada are now doing the same to others that they did not want done to themselves.
From your profile, it does not seem that this plays to your advantage ;-)
Unfortunately, there are tons of smaller companies that are unethical and act outright illegally by considering only applicants of very specific ethnic backgrounds (Indian companies stand out here, also Chinese ones), although it is illegal by Canadian labor law to discriminate based on race. They hardly ever have an issue to speak with applicants from the other ends of the world over the phone or video chat. Sometimes they receive kickbacks for hiring specific people, at other times it's a "same-race preference". At other times its a "let's do a favor for the son of the aunty of the friend" kind of thing. Sadly, its often very difficult for law enforcement to collect evidence in order to take action. I have zero tolerance for such behavior and I vowed myself to always report to law enforcement such behavior if I ever come across actionable information. It is grossly unfair to everyone else and hypocritical: The same people who wanted to be fairly treated without discrimination when they applied to live in Canada are now doing the same to others that they did not want done to themselves.
From your profile, it does not seem that this plays to your advantage ;-)
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Hello all,
Hello all of you guys, I, have a question regarding the "work experience". In all the options either PNP or AINP, RINP etc, it is stated that "self-employed" is not accepted as work experience. But my question is, what if the applicant is a partner in the company or the business in which he/she has a part OWNERSHIP or shares etc. Does it come under the self-employed?
Anyone has information on this.
Thank you.
Hello all of you guys, I, have a question regarding the "work experience". In all the options either PNP or AINP, RINP etc, it is stated that "self-employed" is not accepted as work experience. But my question is, what if the applicant is a partner in the company or the business in which he/she has a part OWNERSHIP or shares etc. Does it come under the self-employed?
Anyone has information on this.
Thank you.
Mustafa83
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- Oct 17, 2017
- 64
- Category........
- PNP
- Visa Office......
- Saskatchewan
- NOC Code......
- 4211
Got the below e-mail today
You are receiving this message because you have successfully been registered on the Claresholm-Rural & Northern Immigration Pilot (RNIP) Mailing List.
The Claresholm-RNIP will not begin accepting applications until February 2020.
The Economic Development Officer is not available to take any appointments at this time.
Claresholm is in the process of deciding employer eligibility criteria, and determining the community recommendation criteria. Until this process is complete, the EDO cannot provide you with any additional information.
To prepare yourself for application to the program you can do the following:
· Visit the IRCC Rural and Northern Immigration Pilot website and understand the Federal Eligibility Requirements. If you do not meet all of the RNIP Federal Eligibility Requirements your application will not be considered.
· Obtain documents to prove you meet the Federal Eligibility Criteria.
· Prepare a detailed resume, cover-letter, including employer references.
· You must meet the work experience requirement of 1,560 continuous hours in the same National Occupation Classification. Self-employment is not eligible.
You cannot get an RNIP job offer at this time. Employers in Claresholm cannot offer jobs through the RNIP program because the employer-eligibility criteria has not been announced.
Please be patient and wait for more announcements to come December 23rd
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So, some more details about another community
You are receiving this message because you have successfully been registered on the Claresholm-Rural & Northern Immigration Pilot (RNIP) Mailing List.
The Claresholm-RNIP will not begin accepting applications until February 2020.
The Economic Development Officer is not available to take any appointments at this time.
Claresholm is in the process of deciding employer eligibility criteria, and determining the community recommendation criteria. Until this process is complete, the EDO cannot provide you with any additional information.
To prepare yourself for application to the program you can do the following:
· Visit the IRCC Rural and Northern Immigration Pilot website and understand the Federal Eligibility Requirements. If you do not meet all of the RNIP Federal Eligibility Requirements your application will not be considered.
· Obtain documents to prove you meet the Federal Eligibility Criteria.
· Prepare a detailed resume, cover-letter, including employer references.
· You must meet the work experience requirement of 1,560 continuous hours in the same National Occupation Classification. Self-employment is not eligible.
You cannot get an RNIP job offer at this time. Employers in Claresholm cannot offer jobs through the RNIP program because the employer-eligibility criteria has not been announced.
Please be patient and wait for more announcements to come December 23rd
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So, some more details about another community
You can apply from anywhere to rnip or ainp or pnp etc, the only thing is that the rural community from which you obtain an offer of employment must sponsor you. Here not only the employer but also the community should sponsor you.
They set thier own requirements and points, which may be or may not be in fovour of us. For example your job occupation may not be in their list, which makes applicant ineligible
Ok. Thank you! I was curious if i will apply from inside Canada, will they ask me for a work authorization or something like that.
You must be thinking too much. Rules are same for any country, when you dont have permission to work you can not work.
Through RNIP, you are asking for work and living rights and to a Permanent resident. If you already have work authorization, then yoy wouldnt ask for it again
Hi Everyone, does anybody know about any other communities besides those 3 open? And where do we need to find for jobs?
Most of these programmes maximum age is 45.For the relatd jobs thier sites needs to be checked to be sure.
None of the yet open communities have maximum age. Where did you get this information from ? Neither Altona, Thunder Bay or Sault Ste. Marie Have a maximum age. The only thing is you might lose some points in their criteria grid if you‘re above a specific age, which also varies.
Hello Team,
I have received a offer letter through RNIP and secured a job as well. I am filling up the forms and have certain questions.
Would like to discuss the same with some one who has secured a job and applying through RNIP.
Request you to please message me and we can discuss further.
Shekhar
I have received a offer letter through RNIP and secured a job as well. I am filling up the forms and have certain questions.
Would like to discuss the same with some one who has secured a job and applying through RNIP.
Request you to please message me and we can discuss further.
Shekhar