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knight18

Member
Jun 21, 2019
10
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Hi all members.
I have been silently observing this forum. One of the best guidance.
I know you people will be surprised to know my number of rejections and might be thinking how fool I am.
First of all let me tell you my timeline.
12 June: Online application for me and my wife as tourist.
13 June: Biometrics
19 June: Correspondence for biometrics
21 June: Visa refusal letter
Reasons being
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary
resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on your family ties in Canada and
in your country of residence.
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary
resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on the purpose of your visit.
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary
resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on the limited employment
prospects in your country of residence.
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary
resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on your current employment
situation.
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary
resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on your personal assets and
financial status.

Let me tell you the previous history.
Applied with mom and dad in 2017.Got rejected. Reapplied immediately. Mom and dad given visa for 5 years and ai got rejected. Purpose was to see my family. Had invitation letter with notary stamp from my mom's brother.
My mom's brother and sister live there in Canada.
Then again applied in 2018 July for my cousin's wedding(maternal uncle son). Had invitation letter as well as wedding card. I wasn't married at that time.
All the rejections were based on Family ties, Travel history, Purpose of visit and Financial status.
Now talk about the recent case:
We're newly married couple. We traveled to Baku and Dubai in Feb this year.
The purpose of visit to Canada was tourism. I booked tickets and hotel for 7 days. No invitation letter this time. I attached all the necessary documents. I'm doctor by profession. I attached ny office orders of appointment and my department's letter head. My account had 30000CAD and I attached the documents of property on my name(2 plots). But now rejected.
Although processing time from Pakistan is 40 days but I got rejection in just 10 days.

I want your precious advice that what to do next? Should I reapply or forget about Canada forever?
All suggestions are welcomed. Waiting for precious comments. Thanks
 
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Jets13

Hero Member
Dec 12, 2016
783
177
knight18 said:
Hi all members.
I have been silently observing this forum. One of the best guidance.
I know you people will be surprised to know my number of rejections and might be thinking how fool I am.
First of all let me tell you my timeline.
12 June: Online application for me and my wife as tourist.
13 June: Biometrics
19 June: Correspondence for biometrics
21 June: Visa refusal letter
Reasons being
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary
resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on your family ties in Canada and
in your country of residence.
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary
resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on the purpose of your visit.
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary
resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on the limited employment
prospects in your country of residence.
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary
resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on your current employment
situation.
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary
resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on your personal assets and
financial status.

Let me tell you the previous history.
Applied with mom and dad in 2017.Got rejected. Reapplied immediately. Mom and dad given visa for 5 years and ai got rejected. Purpose was to see my family. Had invitation letter with notary stamp from my mom's brother.
My mom's brother and sister live there in Canada.
Then again applied in 2018 July for my cousin's wedding(maternal uncle son). Had invitation letter as well as wedding card. I wasn't married at that time.
All the rejections were based on Family ties, Travel history, Purpose of visit and Financial status.
Now talk about the recent case:
We're newly married couple. We traveled to Baku and Dubai in Feb this year.
The purpose of visit to Canada was tourism. I booked tickets and hotel for 7 days. No invitation letter this time. I attached all the necessary documents. I'm doctor by profession. I attached ny office orders of appointment and my department's letter head. My account had 30000CAD and I attached the documents of property on my name(2 plots). But now rejected.
Although processing time from Pakistan is 40 days but I got rejection in just 10 days.

I want your precious advice that what to do next? Should I reapply or forget about Canada forever?
All suggestions are welcomed. Waiting for precious comments. Thanks
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You can try ordering gcms notes on this and your previous refusals to see that notes or comments the officers made when making their decision.
 
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rose.mary

Full Member
Mar 27, 2019
43
5
knight18 said:
What can be done then on the basis of notes?
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I got rejected 2 times because of my purpose of visit, ordering these notes gives you the underlying reasons you were rejected. In the rejection letter it wont mention everything. I personally wont apply again unless I see the notes and fill the gaps my application had
 
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nmatter

Hero Member
May 12, 2019
350
59
As suggested here you need to order your notes but I would say for time being stop applying again and try to visit some other visa required country (like USA, UK).

And once you got your detail reason of refusal , work on that point first and then apply.
 
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canuck78

VIP Member
Jun 18, 2017
55,605
13,526
You have had too many refusals at this point. After 2 refusals in a short amount of time you should have taken a break for a few years. Given that you have applied so many times it appears that you are desperate to reach Canada which will increase concerns that you will not return to Pakistan. While you were single and maybe still in school you wouldn’t have many ties to Pakistan. On toP of that you seem to have quite a lot of family in Canada and there have been quite a lot of asylum request from Pakistan as well. If you had applied to study or filled out any form indicating you are interested in immigrating forms that would have counted against you as well. If you would like to visit Canada in the future I’d encourage you to visit the US, Europe, Australia or NZ and go for some vacations that are less than a month long and return to Pakistan. That will show a pattern that you will be a true visitor to Canada.

If you have thoughts of immigrating to Canada I would strongly discourage immigrating if you want to practice medicine. Getting licensed in Canada is extremely hard and almost impossible for specialists unless you have trained in a few select countries. For family doctors there is a slight chance but perhaps 1%.
 
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knight18 said:
Hi all members.
I have been silently observing this forum. One of the best guidance.
I know you people will be surprised to know my number of rejections and might be thinking how fool I am.
First of all let me tell you my timeline.
12 June: Online application for me and my wife as tourist.
13 June: Biometrics
19 June: Correspondence for biometrics
21 June: Visa refusal letter
Reasons being
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary
resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on your family ties in Canada and
in your country of residence.
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary
resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on the purpose of your visit.
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary
resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on the limited employment
prospects in your country of residence.
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary
resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on your current employment
situation.
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary
resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on your personal assets and
financial status.

Let me tell you the previous history.
Applied with mom and dad in 2017.Got rejected. Reapplied immediately. Mom and dad given visa for 5 years and ai got rejected. Purpose was to see my family. Had invitation letter with notary stamp from my mom's brother.
My mom's brother and sister live there in Canada.
Then again applied in 2018 July for my cousin's wedding(maternal uncle son). Had invitation letter as well as wedding card. I wasn't married at that time.
All the rejections were based on Family ties, Travel history, Purpose of visit and Financial status.
Now talk about the recent case:
We're newly married couple. We traveled to Baku and Dubai in Feb this year.
The purpose of visit to Canada was tourism. I booked tickets and hotel for 7 days. No invitation letter this time. I attached all the necessary documents. I'm doctor by profession. I attached ny office orders of appointment and my department's letter head. My account had 30000CAD and I attached the documents of property on my name(2 plots). But now rejected.
Although processing time from Pakistan is 40 days but I got rejection in just 10 days.

I want your precious advice that what to do next? Should I reapply or forget about Canada forever?
All suggestions are welcomed. Waiting for precious comments. Thanks
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It's better to re-apply, but just order gcms and read the details of what made the immigration officer reject your application, improve it and then reapply.
 
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knight18

Member
Jun 21, 2019
10
0
canuck78 said:
You have had too many refusals at this point. After 2 refusals in a short amount of time you should have taken a break for a few years. Given that you have applied so many times it appears that you are desperate to reach Canada which will increase concerns that you will not return to Pakistan. While you were single and maybe still in school you wouldn’t have many ties to Pakistan. On toP of that you seem to have quite a lot of family in Canada and there have been quite a lot of asylum request from Pakistan as well. If you had applied to study or filled out any form indicating you are interested in immigrating forms that would have counted against you as well. If you would like to visit Canada in the future I’d encourage you to visit the US, Europe, Australia or NZ and go for some vacations that are less than a month long and return to Pakistan. That will show a pattern that you will be a true visitor to Canada.

If you have thoughts of immigrating to Canada I would strongly discourage immigrating if you want to practice medicine. Getting licensed in Canada is extremely hard and almost impossible for specialists unless you have trained in a few select countries. For family doctors there is a slight chance but perhaps 1%.
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I have a setup of hospital of my dad(We are surgeons here) and I never want to immigrate to Canada. Neither want to study there.. The only purpose of mu visit is to visit my family as well as some tourism. That's it. I just want to spend my yearly break at Canada for 15 20 days.
 
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canuck78

VIP Member
Jun 18, 2017
55,605
13,526
knight18 said:
I have a setup of hospital of my dad(We are surgeons here) and I never want to immigrate to Canada. Neither want to study there.. The only purpose of mu visit is to visit my family as well as some tourism. That's it. I just want to spend my yearly break at Canada for 15 20 days.
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Would not apply for a few years and visit other countries like US, Australia, other European countries which require visas as I suggested.
 
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knight18

Member
Jun 21, 2019
10
0
Applied for gcms notes via getgcms. Any idea how many days required?
And will it help me with getting the objections removed?
 
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