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derkdsou

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The call center can confirm whether your eligibility has been marked passed. And, yes, your next ghost update should mean the PPR is days away!

I got a ghost update. My BG was false IP2 (we are processing your background check) since medical passed. It remained like that for almost 6 months and now it changed to Not Applicable. Does it mean I'm near PPR or it's just probably eligibility passed and I'm another ghost update away from PPR?
Is your VO New Delhi? Here's their email: delhi-im-enquiry@international.gc.ca

So what do I do for an update now? I've been friendzoned today and IRCC says they have no information and to check with the local VO.
 

derkdsou

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Absolutely brilliant! Congratulations! Do you believe your IP2 was generated on 12/7 and your PPR request on 13/7 Canada time, assuming your VO was Ottawa? Essentially, how much time passed between your IP2 and PPR?

I received ready for visa email today.
Details in my sign
 
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Maya1515

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The idea that IRCC organizes its files according to region gets confirmed to me day by day, anyways for my country.
A fellow Moroccan got his PPR this morning. I've been checking on the trackers of my country for the people who had joined the Friendzoned and it was going very closely on a first come, first served basis.

Again inspired by former professional experience (which is, I believe, similar to what's cooking in IRCC but on another field), what happens in most cases I think is that:
Someone apply.
His file gets dispatched (after completeness medicals and possibly also criminality) to either Sydney, Ottawa, or LVO for further processing, depending on load+program+language of documents (French or English).
If it's Sydney or Ottawa, then the file gets piled according to date and region's team. Junior officer looks at it.

If all is straight forward and good, then he will not need much to investigate the case and that someone will be among people getting PPR fast.
If RR on anything then wait for Senior officer to check and discuss with Junior. The senior officer will either validate or give additional points to check. More time is needed then. They will not discuss again a case unless the new points they were seeking were acquired (call made to a former employer for instance). If someone adds new data (son or wife) then this takes the process a step back.

And also Junior and Senior will not be able to discuss many cases at once, so it's 5 per week at most! Anyways again I think that goes for people from my country because not more than 2 or 3 PPR were given per week for a long time (from Ottawa), sometimes only 1, or none per week.

This why there are so many disparities in processing times: The Visa office; The team working on each country (big or small); If there is a RR; when a case is discussed with Senior and if there are additional points to check; How easy and fast it is to acquire needed information, when new information is discussed again and if it's satisfying...

This green échalotte (sister of Poirot) cannot think of any other points to solve the mystery of IRCC working mechanisms.
 
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Abhiancha

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Hey, @Abhiancha, any updates since? More widely, I'd like to hear from people who've gone into IP2 recently, and how long it's been that way.
Not yet, kind of gone back to the routine of waiting :p
From what i observed, the time take from IP2/Ghost update to PPR is varying based on two factors
1. Which VO is your file with?
2. What's that particular VO's recent trend with respect to releasing PPRs
I know both are interrelated and the focus is more on the specific VO the case is with. I was in a pretty active NDVO specific whatsapp group for sometime, the trend observed with NDVO is that they usually release them in batches (like most other VOs), apart from one or two exceptions - around 60%-80% of PPRs released in May came on 20th and 27th. Which made me infer that they prefer to issue on Mondays, but not on all. and they tend to compile a bunch and release on a particular day rather than release them as and when they are approved. Due to this its difficult to identify a trend with respect to gap between IP2/Ghost and PPR for NDVO.
For Ottawa, I see that the gap has reduced drastically when compared to earlier months. Now, we are seeing majority of cases getting PPR within a week of IP2/Ghost. Those who have received PPR recently from Ottawa can correct me if i'm wrong.

PS: I'm expecting mine to come on Monday, coz after 27th NDVO hasn't released a big bunch!

PS: I personally didn't like one of the admins of the NDVO whatsapp group - too much moral policing, we weren't even supposed to wish our fellow applicants for a festival. This thread is much much better in that respect, we do talk about different things as well to keep the spirits high!
 
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Saoussane

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Hello guys,
I joined the friendzone on June 12 and u didn't have any update since medical and biometrics. Yesterday I contacte Mr Ralph Goodale, as I can't reach the IRCC on the phone the line is always busy, hia office answered me within 4 hours saying the following:
Criminality passed.
Eligibility met
Security checks have not been initiated.
VO Sydney
Can you please tell what's "Eligibility met" means
And am I in SS
Thank you
 

Maya1515

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Experiencing serious mood swings.
One minute I'm happy for the PPR holders, the next I feel insanely jealous...
I also used to think like this: Why not me? I applied first! This should go on a first come/first served basis.
But cases are different.
Eg: provided a person with ETH will get assessed slower than someone with no travel history. Yes, it's so painful! (I'm experiencing this pain like many others). Yet in terms of life experiences, it's better for the well-traveled person. And he will pay the price waiting more. I think it's worth it. And after arriving in Canada, life will be easier for him because he's used to living in different environments. Cultural Shock stages are no joke! Yet I think a well-traveled person will not have to go through it again.

Don't get jealous. It doesn't matter to arrive first, but rather to arrive at the right time.

With all that I said, come to think of it, that passage which comes from a former report of IRCC in 2012 is always satisfying for me to read:
"Another witness made the opposite argument, suggesting that the Government should restrict new applications under Ministerial Instructions for the short term and process primarily backlog applications. He argued that eliminating the backlog quickly is important because the backlog has negative effects on Canada's reputation, the operation of the immigration system, and the labour market, as well as on immigrants themselves. He referenced research showing that younger immigrants have better labour market outcomes, saying “This implies that if an individual sits in the queue for three, four, or five years, there's a simultaneous deterioration in that person's ability to integrate into the Canadian labour market, and it reduces that person's lifetime earnings profile”"

Part of me wants to say: yes yes yes!!!!! xD. I'm going mental sometimes and I need rest after this wait!
 

derkdsou

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My dear friends and fellow friendzoneds, I was just bumped up to IP2!

I'm cautiously optimistic because I do have an ETH and I wonder if I will have a prolonged background check, but I am going to ride this wave of excitement first and start worrying later. I'll be speaking to the call center to find out my status as soon as I have 30 minutes to spare. And, yes, when I checked my profile this afternoon it said "Application/profile updated" and the background check status switched to "We are processing your background check".
 

Maya1515

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Mar 13, 2019
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Hello guys,
I joined the friendzone on June 12 and u didn't have any update since medical and biometrics. Yesterday I contacte Mr Ralph Goodale, as I can't reach the IRCC on the phone the line is always busy, hia office answered me within 4 hours saying the following:
Criminality passed.
Eligibility met
Security checks have not been initiated.
VO Sydney
Can you please tell what's "Eligibility met" means
And am I in SS
Thank you
Dear Saoussane,

If your eligibility is met then the biggest hurdle is gone! You can rest now, it will come after a day, a week, a month, or more. But if you are a good person, which I'm sure you are, it will come. Not sure you're under SS, security not started for you.
Oh does the office of Ralph Goodale get involved in such matters? How come?
 

KatherineNunes

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Apr 17, 2019
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Visa Office......
Ottawa
AOR Received.
December 13, 2018
Med's Done....
January 23. 2019
My dear friends and fellow friendzoneds, I was just bumped up to IP2!

I'm cautiously optimistic because I do have an ETH and I wonder if I will have a prolonged background check, but I am going to ride this wave of excitement first and start worrying later. I'll be speaking to the call center to find out my status as soon as I have 30 minutes to spare. And, yes, when I checked my profile this afternoon it said "Application/profile updated" and the background check status switched to "We are processing your background check".
@derkdsou Congratulations..... I really hope my application follows you.... Aor Dec 13 here... Friendzoned too
 

angelica2019

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I also used to think like this: Why not me? I applied first! This should go on a first come/first served basis.
But cases are different.
Eg: provided a person with ETH will get assessed slower than someone with no travel history. Yes, it's so painful! (I'm experiencing this pain like many others). Yet in terms of life experiences, it's better for the well-traveled person. And he will pay the price waiting more. I think it's worth it. And after arriving in Canada, life will be easier for him because he's used to living in different environments. Cultural Shock stages are no joke! Yet I think a well-traveled person will not have to go through it again.

Don't get jealous. It doesn't matter to arrive first, but rather to arrive at the right time.

With all that I said, come to think of it, that passage which comes from a former report of IRCC in 2012 is always satisfying for me to read:
"Another witness made the opposite argument, suggesting that the Government should restrict new applications under Ministerial Instructions for the short term and process primarily backlog applications. He argued that eliminating the backlog quickly is important because the backlog has negative effects on Canada's reputation, the operation of the immigration system, and the labour market, as well as on immigrants themselves. He referenced research showing that younger immigrants have better labour market outcomes, saying “This implies that if an individual sits in the queue for three, four, or five years, there's a simultaneous deterioration in that person's ability to integrate into the Canadian labour market, and it reduces that person's lifetime earnings profile”"

Part of me wants to say: yes yes yes!!!!! xD. I'm going mental sometimes and I need rest after this wait!
That's very sweet of you to comfort me.
I guess it's the approaching full moon that's making me wanna scream...hahahah
but seriously, I'm fine.
I wish things work out for all of us soon! XOXO