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Thank you for the insightful reply. :)

I do not claim any CRS point for this internship, also there is no gap in my travel/personal history because the internship was done during my undergrad study. In fact, my CRS points for Education are claimed entirely from my Canadian Master's degree.

Given this information, would you still recommend submitting a CSE?

My apologies if I ask too many questions, just want to make sure my application is processed smoothly.

Thank you.
If that is the case, there is no need for a CSE.
 
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Hello @legalfalcon

I might have made a mistake in the client information documents section. Please advise! I have received my AOR on November 28th 2018. In the client information documents section, i uploaded a pdf and briefly explained about my profile summary and provided a snapshot of my FSW and CRS scores in tabular format. I have more than 4 years of work experience across multiple NOC's listed in work history and my CRS score is 453. My FSW score across multiple NOC's which is not continuous would amount to 13 points under FSW grid. I have more than 2 years of full time continuous experience in my primary NOC which amounts to 11 points under FSW grid. In the FSW table in client information section, i mentioned only 11 points (2 to 3 years) for experience in Primary NOC and put my final score as 70 points instead of 72 (Across multiple NOC's and not continuous). I thought the experience need to be continuous and in one occupation. I have listed in CRS table, that i have more than 4 years work experience in the last 10 years with multiple NOC's. Did i enter FSW experience points correctly? Is FSW points calculated for only primary NOC continuous experience or it is combination of all our experiences across multiple NOC's under work history? Please advise, if i need to raise a CSE for the same or should i ignore?


Thanks for your help!
There are two things that you need to take into consideration:

1. CRS Score - For this your get max points for your work is it is 3 or more years. It can be in different NOCs and you can combine your work ex under different NOCs to get the CRS.

2. MEC - This is the Minimum eligibility criteria, in which you need 67 points out of 100 to meet this. You have to meeth both CRS and MEC to be eligible. In MEC, you need 1 year of full time work ex under the declared NOC. You get max points for 6+ years of work ex.

See https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry/eligibility/federal-skilled-workers/six-selection-factors-federal-skilled-workers.html

IRCC will use its own calculations, when you provide is irrelevant. The calculation will be based on what you entered in your profile and supporting documents.
 
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Dear @legalfalcon

I have another question, please advise. I have attached my former company employment reference letter, pay slips, tax returns along with my HR manager employee ID card in work history. My previous company has a partnership with another company with different name, which has global operations, but they continue to use the same office address in India's as our company.They don't have any branches in India. In LinkedIn profile, my HR manager mentioned that she works for company with global operations instead of the one, provided in reference letter. When asked, she said, both are partner and sister companies and she included my company name in the bottom line of her latest experience section in LinkedIn. She provided me her employee id card and mentioned her email address(which belong to my company) in the reference letter. Will this cause any problem? Should i send a CSE for the same or ignore?

Appreciate your help!
No issues, if IRCC wants to confirm, they can call or contacting the person writing the work ref letter.
 

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Hi,@legalfalcon

I have encountered a question regarding PCC.
My AoR is Sep 8. On Oct 3, I was asked RCMP fingerprint check, and uploaded on Oct 25.

I am wondering do I need PCC from China. First time, I came to Canada on Oct 14,2010. Also, I hit 18 years old in August,2010. Since then, I only went back and stayed at China for no more than 3 months. In other word, I stayed most of time in Canada after I was 18, and never stayed more than 6 months in China after 18 years old. In this case, I am wondering do I need PCC from China. As I talked to my lawyer, he said I didn't need PCC from China and didn't upload my Chinese PCC in September. It's been 3 months since AoR, I am worried to be rejected at this stage.

My medical is passed. I am wondering if it means R10 completeness passed? I found some people said R10 and med are usually conducted simultaneously? I have my Chinese PCC dated September, can I still use it since I want to submit it through web form.

IRCC is very clear in its requirement for PCC:


  • For countries in which the applicant no longer resides, the police certificate must have been issued after the last time the applicant stayed in that country for 6 months or more in a row.
So based on what you said, you do not need a PCC from China.

R10 is usually done within 30 days post AoR.

The only way to confirm the exact status is through GCMS notes, or waiting it out.
 

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Dear legalfalcon,

I hope you can find little time to share your valuable opinion, will be very grateful.

My application was submitted on 12th of May 2018. Ever since then it is stuck in IP1 and the current status says "we will message you when we start your background check".

I called them to inquire however they told me eligibility is under review. I then also wrote to Ralph and received the same response. I have ordered GCMS notes around 15 days ago so the situation gets clearer.

2 primary reasons I feel may have led to the delay:

Issue #1 Work Experience:
On the profile and personal history I mentioned working in a company where I have worked for the last 8 years in different roles and capacities. However for my profession that is marketing the last two jobs were split in two ways, one was initially on third party contract and the other being on permanent role. Since I was working with the same company but was on third party I think I should have not mentioned the company where I was working at as the company on the profile and personal history but mentioned the Third Party entity. This I believe should be clarified via an LOE to avoid any confusion I think since the job letters and pay slips clearly are from Third party stating I will be working on the premises of my primary company. In the work letter from my employer they have also acknowledged that I am a permanent employee and previously I was working for them on third party contract. What do you think about this issue?

Issue #2 POF:
This one is slightly complicated. I was in a bit of a rush and did not really focus on the fact that I have to maintain the funds requirement 6 months prior to applying. I received some money from an uncle and my father (as a short term loan) and put it in my bank account. I paid them both back since I knew I had a some of money coming in my account from my employer in a few months. I knew that money should not be borrowed so I simply showed POF by getting a bank certificate stating the Current Balance as opposed to Average 6 months balance. This I think is the main issue according to myself and many others who I have shared my case with. I know the GCMS notes are almost 15 days away however I want to be prepared with an LOE as soon as the notes comes so that is why I need your help in exploring my options. Can I simply say that this was cash lying around or people owed me money that is why this amount came? Remember I did not upload any bank statements. And although there are ups and down, withdrawals and deposits I have managed to keep the minimum balance well over the requirement ever since I had applied? One option people tell me is to get a gift deed only from my father, in that case what is the format that is to be used? Can you please tell me what is the right way to go ahead with this? Should I also submit a detailed bank statement along with gift deed and let them know straight that I had overlooked the requirement of 6 months balance maintaining prior to applying?

Your kind support in this regards will really help a lot as I am very worried about my case.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Kind regards,
AJ.
The average processing time for an application is 6 months, and this 6 months starts from the day your R10 is passed, and not when you get your AoR. Further, there is no stage such as IP2 etc. What you see in your MyCIC account is just status updates, and it does not correspond with what stage your application may be at. All application go through the following:

R10
Medicals
Criminality
Eligibility
Security

To read more on these see, https://www.getgcms.com/blog/express-entry-application-processed/

Both your issues you have mentioned are speculative. Instead wait for GCMS notes to see the picture, and don't over think.
 

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@legalfalcon

In August 2016, I was charged with "Inattentive or Careless Driving" (a criminal misdemeanour in that particular US state). The charge was dismissed shortly after and the case is closed.

In the eAPR, it asks if I've "ever been charged", so my answer is Yes.

In the Schedule A form, however, I'm a little uncertain about the wording:

"6. Have you, or if you are the principal applicant, any of your family members listed in your application for permanent residence in Canada, ever:

b) been convicted of, or are you currently charged with, on trial for, or party to a crime or offence, or subject to any criminal proceedings in any other country or territory?"

I'm unsure whether to answer Yes or No since I'm not sure if the word "currently" also applies to "on trial for", "party to a crime or offence", "subject to criminal proceedings". What should I answer?
You have to answer "No," since your have not been convicted, neither you are currently charged, on trial, or party to a crime or offence and neither are you subject to any proceedings.

However, you should explain your charge for inattentive driving in your application. This won't be a big deal.
 

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Hello @legalfalcon. It has been 11 months now post AOR and still eligibility and security not started as per latest gcms received in Nov2018. My file had review required for PoF. I did submit an updated statement but nothing seems to move my file. I see in the gcms that all the cse's and phone calls that i have raised, the notes just say one thing....

"This application is in queue for processing and an email has been received related to this application. Please verify ECONOMIC NOT STARTED folder under the PRU folder if no subsequent note is entered pertaining to the email received".

My file is at NDVO. Any idea what this means and is there anything that i can do to get their attention?what is this folder that they are talking about?
It simply means that your file has been kept in a stack pertaining to economic immigration, and is awaiting review.
 

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@legalfalcon

Can following FDs be used as proof of funds?

FDs in Bank account of my wife:
1) 1 Year FD with Maturity Date Apr'19 - INR 1 lac
2) 1 Year FD with Maturity Date Oct'19 - INR 1 lac
3) 5 Year FD with Maturity Date Mar'23 - INR 1 lac

All FDs are created out of Savings account in the same bank (basically from Salaries)

What additional documents do i need to submit if I am the primary applicant and this bank account is in the name of my wife (Single Holder)
See - https://www.getgcms.com/blog/proof-funds-requirement-express-entry/

You can use these FDs. No issues as long as they were made over 6 months ago. Also, you will need a letter from the financial institution where these are.
 

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@legalfalcon I’m under SS and my medical expired a few days ago. Today I checked the portal and it says “You do not need a medical exam. We will send you a message if this changes.”. It’s normal, isn’t it?
Yes. At this stage you have 2 options. You can either request IRCC to renew your Meds, or wait for IRCC to send you new Med request. Usually for applicants a new Med request is sent when they are closer to finishing the SS. If you request to renew meds, it is at the discretion of the VO.
 
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@legalfalcon I was asked for ADR on the same day I passed medicals and made a mistake in the document I uploaded to my CIC account. Later, I carefully prepared the IMM 5669 covering all my gaps with proper reasons. Now I have no idea which Indian VO is processing my application so I ended up sending it to all 3 using the webform- New Delhi, Bangalore and Chandigarh. It's been 2 days I have not heard anything back from them apart from the automated confirmation.

How will this impact my application? Need your advice on how I am suppose to proceed with this? I really want to make sure they have got my new IMM 5669 form.
All EE application in India are processed at NDVO. It will not make a difference, however you SHOULD NEVER same documents to multiple offices, it just delays your own application. Even if you are not sure, submitting it one is enough, and it is transferred to the office where your application is.

It takes 7-10 days for IRCC to acknowledge.
 
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I had RR for POF. No major reason just family of 3 requires 19,093. after sending several CSEs and several Appeals, after 4 months in RR, I got a ghost update on the 23rd of Nov. AOR - 15TH MAY, IP2 - JUNE 28TH MEDICAL PASSED. I raised a CSE after the ghost update, Agent replied with the below message.

Thank you for contacting Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC).

We verified the information you provided and can confirm that a decision has been made on the application. Rest assured that the responsible office will contact you by mail or email to provide you with that decision.

We hope the information provided is helpful in assisting you with your enquiry.

We would also like to suggest the following online services that might be helpful to you with any immigration, refugee and/or citizenship future requests:

is this a good news? some people with RR for POF have gotten PFL. i didnt get any PFL or ADR.

should i be happy guys?

can there be a rejection without PFL or ADR?
This is definitely a good news, just wait and you should have the PPR soon.
 

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Can you please give me any insight to where I am in my application?
  • The application was received at the Case Processing Centre in Mississauga (CPC-M), Ontario on January 16, 2017.
  • The application was refused on January 19, 2018.
  • The decision was appealed and the appeal was allowed, therefore the application has been re-opened on September 17, 2018.
  • The initial assessment to ensure your constituent meets the eligibility criteria and that the application is complete was finalized.
  • The responsible office reviewed the application and documents submitted and determined that the sponsored person (the applicant) meets the eligibility requirements.
o the assessment for the applicant has been finalized at the Canadian visa office in London, United Kingdom.

  • The medical examination results are on file and valid until October 12, 2019 for your constituent’s spouse.
  • The criminality verifications are currently valid.
  • The security verifications are currently in process.
You have cleared the eligibility and not your application is pending security. Security is a complicated and a long drawn process. CSIS and CBSA are both involved in this. You will just have to wait it out.

If you are eager to know if CSIS or CBSA have concluded their involvement in your application, you can consider requesting CBSA or CSIS notes.
 

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@legalfalcon can you please tell me how much time does it take for ppr after CIC asked for Medical and it is passed now. Medicals expired.
If you are asked for re-Meds, then 2-5 weeks.
 

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@legalfalcon Hello All,

I am at very dreadful junction.. as my WES has given me CANADIAN EQUIVALENCY SUMMARY "Bachelor's degree (three years) and completion of an executive management program offered by a graduate school of business"

I dont know to select in EE Profile. As many are saying ONLY Bachelors and many have got PR using 2 or more Degrees, Diplomas or Certificate AND/OR some aspirants have also given suggestions of going through IQAS / ICAS.

Please anyone can throw some light on this with substantial material, as I am already at my threshold of age to apply for PR.

Its Desperate request.. I have tried and tired everywhere for this question
You can select two or more degrees.

All of the below combinations qualify for two or more degrees.

Three-year or more certificate, diploma, or degree plus a Graduate Certificate ------ Two or more certificates, diplomas, or degrees
Three-year or more certificate, diploma, or degree plus a Graduate Certificate with a focus in [area of concentration] -------------------- Two or more certificates, diplomas, or degrees
Three-year or more certificate, diploma, or degree plus a Graduate Diploma with a focus in [area of concentration] ------------------Two or more certificates, diplomas, or degrees
 

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