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H&C Humanitarian Ground with/or Without Failed refugee claim

TheWaitingGamer

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Mar 21, 2018
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App. Filed.......
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Doc's Request.
01-2018 Schedule A
AOR Received.
AIP 07-2017
Med's Request
01-2018
Med's Done....
01-2018
Passport Req..
06-2018
Do you think it will be wise to apply for H&C based on child interest or wait for my appeal and also sponsorship?
Hello Dear,

I read your story a bit and in my opinion you should apply ASAP for spousal sponsorship, as other told you, it will surely be more difficult than usual but not impossible. And you need to do it before the appeal denial, if denied and before removal order, otherwise your husband must have trouble to remain here until the end of the process. Make sure to consult a lawyer or a consultan

For H&C I think you should make a request for Humanitarian consideration jointly with your sponsorship application, in this way if your spouse is found inadmissible because of his failed refugee claim or something else, your sponsorship application will then be process by taking into account your H&C considerations and the well-being and best interest of your children.

So I changed my question, did your 5yrs ban end?
 
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Jets13

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Hello Dear,

I read your story a bit and in my opinion you should apply ASAP for spousal sponsorship, as other told you, it will surely be more difficult than usual but not impossible. And you need to do it before the appeal denial, if denied and before removal order, otherwise your husband must have trouble to remain here until the end of the process.

For H&C I think you should make a request for Humanitarian consideration jointly with your sponsorship application, in this way if your spouse is found inadmissible because of his failed refugee claim or something else, your sponsorship application will then be process by taking into account your H&C considerations and the well-being and best interest of your children.

I saw you are married since 2016, may I ask why you didn't applied for sponsor after marriage?
If they were sponsored themselves is there not a waiting period before they can do a sponsor application again after failed marriage? If so that might be reason why they waited.
 

TheWaitingGamer

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Mar 21, 2018
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84
Canada
Category........
App. Filed.......
01-2017
Doc's Request.
01-2018 Schedule A
AOR Received.
AIP 07-2017
Med's Request
01-2018
Med's Done....
01-2018
Passport Req..
06-2018
If they were sponsored themselves is there not a waiting period before they can do a sponsor application again after failed marriage? If so that might be reason why they waited.
you right, thank you. actually there are 5 years ban for sponsored spouse.
 

Longroadtoimmigration

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Sep 19, 2018
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That's right. I was eligible to sponsor in 2018. Due to the 5 yr ban
 

Longroadtoimmigration

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Sep 19, 2018
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App. Filed.......
September 19th 2018
Interview........
I rebuke it ijn
LANDED..........
I shall testify
Hello Dear,

I read your story a bit and in my opinion you should apply ASAP for spousal sponsorship, as other told you, it will surely be more difficult than usual but not impossible. And you need to do it before the appeal denial, if denied and before removal order, otherwise your husband must have trouble to remain here until the end of the process. Make sure to consult a lawyer or a consultan

For H&C I think you should make a request for Humanitarian consideration jointly with your sponsorship application, in this way if your spouse is found inadmissible because of his failed refugee claim or something else, your sponsorship application will then be process by taking into account your H&C considerations and the well-being and best interest of your children.

So I changed my question, did your 5yrs ban end?
Yes my 5 yr ban ended 2018
 

Longroadtoimmigration

Hero Member
Sep 19, 2018
236
99
App. Filed.......
September 19th 2018
Interview........
I rebuke it ijn
LANDED..........
I shall testify
Hello Dear,

I read your story a bit and in my opinion you should apply ASAP for spousal sponsorship, as other told you, it will surely be more difficult than usual but not impossible. And you need to do it before the appeal denial, if denied and before removal order, otherwise your husband must have trouble to remain here until the end of the process. Make sure to consult a lawyer or a consultan

For H&C I think you should make a request for Humanitarian consideration jointly with your sponsorship application, in this way if your spouse is found inadmissible because of his failed refugee claim or something else, your sponsorship application will then be process by taking into account your H&C considerations and the well-being and best interest of your children.

So I changed my question, did your 5yrs ban end?
I have applied for the sponsorship and also applied spousal h&c as you suggested.
 

TheWaitingGamer

Star Member
Mar 21, 2018
147
84
Canada
Category........
App. Filed.......
01-2017
Doc's Request.
01-2018 Schedule A
AOR Received.
AIP 07-2017
Med's Request
01-2018
Med's Done....
01-2018
Passport Req..
06-2018
I have applied for the sponsorship and also applied spousal h&c as you suggested.
Great! I hope every thing will be fine for you and your husband. When did you send you application did you get AOR already?
 

Longroadtoimmigration

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Sep 19, 2018
236
99
App. Filed.......
September 19th 2018
Interview........
I rebuke it ijn
LANDED..........
I shall testify
How long you been married? You said your previous husband sponsored you get PR in 2013, then you divorced him o 2015. Then you remarried your current husband and 2 children with current husband already. And current husband had failed refugee claim. Now you are sponsoring him. Too many branches in a singe tree. I am trying to put all puzzles together. You mentioned about 5 yrs ban. What is the ban for? When did you meet your current husband and how long you dated before getting pregnant. I am not judging you but if I am a case officer, I would think your current husband's main goal to reach canada some way.
Yea I know . If it was a straight forward situation I won't be here asking for opinions.
 
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mims2000

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Sep 6, 2012
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Would it be a good idea to email the officer whos handling my application directly or will it affect my application negatively? She emailed me before asking if im still working. Thanks
 

TheWaitingGamer

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Mar 21, 2018
147
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Canada
Category........
App. Filed.......
01-2017
Doc's Request.
01-2018 Schedule A
AOR Received.
AIP 07-2017
Med's Request
01-2018
Med's Done....
01-2018
Passport Req..
06-2018
Would it be a good idea to email the officer whos handling my application directly or will it affect my application negatively? She emailed me before asking if im still working. Thanks
My officer e-mailed me twice but I don't know If it was her e-mail address or office standard e-mail, it was CIC-BRAM-BROM-Stage2@..... and so on kind of e-mail address.

But maybe why not a very polite e-mail to mention your worries about your medical expiring soon... Did you ever ask a GCMS notes?
 

mims2000

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Sep 6, 2012
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My officer e-mailed me twice but I don't know If it was her e-mail address or office standard e-mail, it was CIC-BRAM-BROM-Stage2@..... and so on kind of e-mail address.

But maybe why not a very polite e-mail to mention your worries about your medical expiring soon... Did you ever ask a GCMS notes?
Hi there. Yea, the email is like that. Im on a pay check to paycheck situation and paying another medical will jeopardize my budget. how do i ask for gcms notes? Do i have to pay for that?

Thanks
 

Sugarpot647

Newbie
Sep 27, 2018
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2
I will start,

I applied for H&C last year on january by my own on best interest of a child ground.
7month later, without any AOR, I got a call from CIC to update my file and we talk for about 30mns about my application and familly. I receive AIP (Approval in principle) 1 day later.

Thanks for sharing.
I am in a similar situation with my son. I am on social assistamce because i jave to care for him and my application is in process. No AIP as yet. I am concerned about being on welfare because i know it can affect tge decision. Will they inform you of when the decision will be made so.you can get off welfare? But i also assume that with AIP i can get a work permit and find a job before a decision is made. Do you also know what places hire perspns with open worl permits?
 

park1996

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Sep 28, 2018
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For me my timeline is:
Application Received: Apr 7th 2017 (I handed in the application in person at BRO-V)
IP: Nov 8th 2017
ME Req (I requested exemption from medical inadmissibility so my ME is before AIP): July 17th 2018
ME Received & Passed: July 27th 2018.

Until now no AIPs yet...
 

TheWaitingGamer

Star Member
Mar 21, 2018
147
84
Canada
Category........
App. Filed.......
01-2017
Doc's Request.
01-2018 Schedule A
AOR Received.
AIP 07-2017
Med's Request
01-2018
Med's Done....
01-2018
Passport Req..
06-2018
Hi there. Yea, the email is like that. Im on a pay check to paycheck situation and paying another medical will jeopardize my budget. how do i ask for gcms notes? Do i have to pay for that?

Thanks
I completely understand that. For gcms I asked my notes here https://atip-aiprp.apps.gc.ca/atip/welcome.do
if you select to get your notes into "privacy act" it free of charge but if you choose "Information act" is 5$ and it's for people outland.
You need to upload your current work permit to prove that you are inland and it take 30 days to receive.