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My dad received job offer + LMIA , is this a scam?

npsoni

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Jun 19, 2018
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So after going back and forth for a few days and a bunch of email letter a construction firm from Canada. The final email includes:

1. LMIA certificate
2. Job offer letter
3. Canadian Immigration Authorisation Letter

A few facts:
1. My dad applied for a job, he has not been contacted by them initially.
2. They haven't asked for any kind of payments upfront (atleast so far).
3. The name of the HR manager, Immigration lawyer checks out and these people / firms actually exist.

Strange things:
1. The attorney that works with them (from Canadian Embassy in Delhi, India) is using @asia.com email address. Aren't they supposed to have more authoritative email account?
2. The emails my father receives from them are from @company-name.com which has a private who-is and no website. The company in fact has a different domain for their actual website.

Whats the best way for me to verify if its a scam or a legit offer?
 

ContactFront

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A LMIA takes months to process, unless they have a bunch lying around to give away. Also, does an attorney from embassy sound right to you?
Why don't you post their website and email address
 

npsoni

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Jun 19, 2018
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A LMIA takes months to process, unless they have a bunch lying around to give away. Also, does an attorney from embassy sound right to you?
Why don't you post their website and email address
The LMIA has 4 more names along with my dad's, not sure if that makes any difference. Attorney's phone is not-reachable and her email address is XXX@asia.com which is a big redflag to me. Want me to PM you a screenshot of LMIA?
 

npsoni

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Jun 19, 2018
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Hi will it be possible for you to copy and paste the text of the offer letter?
This is gonna be long, here you go.

JOB OFFER LETTER

Ref NO: 3467/EDS6441 09/07/2018,
Dear. Mr; My dad's name,
Passport Number: His passport number
Nationality: India.
Congratulation! With reference to your educational certificates copies submitted with us and the
online interview you had with us. We are pleased to confirm that we have selected you to work
with us, in our company (Golder Construction Company). We delighted to make you the following
job offer.
We are offering you the position of Project Manager. (code- 1221) at a salary monthly basic salary
will be 6,500 CAD + 800 CAD Weekly allowances. Total: 9,700 CAD, after the Taxes as Monthly
allowances
.
JOB DESCRIPTION:
As a Project Manager: Your responsibilities include: Coordinate internal resources and third
parties/vendors for the flawless execution of projects, Ensure that all projects are delivered on-time,
within scope and within budget, Developing project scopes and objectives, involving all relevant
stakeholders and ensuring technical feasibility, Ensure resource availability and allocation, Develop a
detailed project plan to track progress, Use appropriate verification techniques to manage changes in
project scope, schedule and costs, Measure project performance using appropriate systems, tools and
techniques, Report and escalate to management as needed, Manage the relationship with the client
and all stakeholders and Perform risk management to minimize project risk.
This position reports directly to our company (Golder Construction Company). Your working
hours will be from (8 am to 5pm) with an hour break, a total number of 40 hours per week
(Mondays — Fridays). This is a (Permanent) position.

Benefits Information to the position:
A) A Private Accommodation with a furnished sitting room and bedrooms suitable for a family of 3 - 5.
B) A Fixed land phone and an Internet ready computer.
C) Free medical care
E) A Day off every week and all fully paid Eight weeks' vacation in a year.
Leave Entitlement:
You are eligible for a paid leave of 45 days after continuous service of 12 months as per employment
act, upon obtaining Golder's ID. However, granting of leave days are subject to leave availability /
exigencies of work. The Employee may not waive this vacation or request cash compensation instead.

Air Ticket:
The Company shall provide the Employee with round trip Premium excursion air ticket from Canada
to home country or any country of your choice (Nearest International Airport) for every 1 year of
continued service with the Company.
Your employment will commence on the 20th of Aug, 2018. We are delighted to extend this offer
to join our company.
Also, please report to us, for documentation and orientation. If this resumption date is
not acceptable, please contact us immediately.

Acceptance:
Please sign and return the duplicate copy of this as a token of your acceptance. Further, kindly
furnish the Signed acceptance of the offer immediately to us. The signed copy should be scanned and
mailed to the undersigned within 3 working days of the receipt of this offer, failing which the offer
will automatically lapse.
All other terms and conditions of this offer are subject to the existing visa, Immigration and other laws
of Golder Construction Company.
We are confident you will be able to make a significant contribution to the continuity of the success
of our company and look forward to working with you

General Terms:
Your appointment and placement on the rolls of the company is on the basis of the information
furnished by you and in the event of such furnished by you is found materially inaccurate or
false, your services are liable to be terminated immediately in addition to and without prejudice
to any what so-ever right of action the company may have against you.
 
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canuck_in_uk

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App. Filed.......
06/12
This is gonna be long, here you go.

JOB OFFER LETTER

Ref NO: 3467/EDS6441 09/07/2018,
Dear. Mr; My dad's name,
Passport Number: His passport number
Nationality: India.
Congratulation! With reference to your educational certificates copies submitted with us and the
online interview you had with us. We are pleased to confirm that we have selected you to work
with us, in our company (XXX Construction Company). We delighted to make you the following
job offer.
We are offering you the position of Project Manager. (code- 1221) at a salary monthly basic salary
will be 6,500 CAD + 800 CAD Weekly allowances. Total: 9,700 CAD, after the Taxes as Monthly
allowances
.
JOB DESCRIPTION:
As a Project Manager: Your responsibilities include: Coordinate internal resources and third
parties/vendors for the flawless execution of projects, Ensure that all projects are delivered on-time,
within scope and within budget, Developing project scopes and objectives, involving all relevant
stakeholders and ensuring technical feasibility, Ensure resource availability and allocation, Develop a
detailed project plan to track progress, Use appropriate verification techniques to manage changes in
project scope, schedule and costs, Measure project performance using appropriate systems, tools and
techniques, Report and escalate to management as needed, Manage the relationship with the client
and all stakeholders and Perform risk management to minimize project risk.
This position reports directly to our company (XXX Construction Company). Your working
hours will be from (8 am to 5pm) with an hour break, a total number of 40 hours per week
(Mondays — Fridays). This is a (Permanent) position.

Benefits Information to the position:
A) A Private Accommodation with a furnished sitting room and bedrooms suitable for a family of 3 - 5.
B) A Fixed land phone and an Internet ready computer.
C) Free medical care
E) A Day off every week and all fully paid Eight weeks' vacation in a year.
Leave Entitlement:
You are eligible for a paid leave of 45 days after continuous service of 12 months as per employment
act, upon obtaining XXX's ID. However, granting of leave days are subject to leave availability /
exigencies of work. The Employee may not waive this vacation or request cash compensation instead.

Air Ticket:
The Company shall provide the Employee with round trip Premium excursion air ticket from Canada
to home country or any country of your choice (Nearest International Airport) for every 1 year of
continued service with the Company.
Your employment will commence on the 20th of Aug, 2018. We are delighted to extend this offer
to join our company.
Also, please report to us, for documentation and orientation. If this resumption date is
not acceptable, please contact us immediately.

Acceptance:
Please sign and return the duplicate copy of this as a token of your acceptance. Further, kindly
furnish the Signed acceptance of the offer immediately to us. The signed copy should be scanned and
mailed to the undersigned within 3 working days of the receipt of this offer, failing which the offer
will automatically lapse.
All other terms and conditions of this offer are subject to the existing visa, Immigration and other laws
of XXX Construction Company.
We are confident you will be able to make a significant contribution to the continuity of the success
of our company and look forward to working with you

General Terms:
Your appointment and placement on the rolls of the company is on the basis of the information
furnished by you and in the event of such furnished by you is found materially inaccurate or
false, your services are liable to be terminated immediately in addition to and without prejudice
to any what so-ever right of action the company may have against you.
100% fake.
 

canuck_in_uk

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Visa Office......
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App. Filed.......
06/12
Thanks guys, figured it was really shady when my dad received it. Was just curious though how are these guys planning to scam others? I mean they havent asked for any money as such.
They will eventually. There will be a "refundable visa fee" or "document processing fee" or whatever.
 

bimale4bipeople

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Apr 15, 2018
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This is gonna be long, here you go.

JOB OFFER LETTER

Ref NO: 3467/EDS6441 09/07/2018,
Dear. Mr; My dad's name,
Passport Number: His passport number
Nationality: India.
Congratulation! With reference to your educational certificates copies submitted with us and the
online interview you had with us. We are pleased to confirm that we have selected you to work
with us, in our company (XXX Construction Company). We delighted to make you the following
job offer.
We are offering you the position of Project Manager. (code- 1221) at a salary monthly basic salary
will be 6,500 CAD + 800 CAD Weekly allowances. Total: 9,700 CAD, after the Taxes as Monthly
allowances

.
JOB DESCRIPTION:
As a Project Manager: Your responsibilities include: Coordinate internal resources and third
parties/vendors for the flawless execution of projects, Ensure that all projects are delivered on-time,
within scope and within budget, Developing project scopes and objectives, involving all relevant
stakeholders and ensuring technical feasibility, Ensure resource availability and allocation, Develop a
detailed project plan to track progress, Use appropriate verification techniques to manage changes in
project scope, schedule and costs, Measure project performance using appropriate systems, tools and
techniques, Report and escalate to management as needed, Manage the relationship with the client
and all stakeholders and Perform risk management to minimize project risk.
This position reports directly to our company (XXX Construction Company). Your working
hours will be from (8 am to 5pm) with an hour break, a total number of 40 hours per week
(Mondays — Fridays). This is a (Permanent) position.

Benefits Information to the position:
A) A Private Accommodation with a furnished sitting room and bedrooms suitable for a family of 3 - 5.
B) A Fixed land phone and an Internet ready computer.
C) Free medical care
E) A Day off every week and all fully paid Eight weeks' vacation in a year.
Leave Entitlement:
You are eligible for a paid leave of 45 days after continuous service of 12 months as per employment
act, upon obtaining XXX's ID. However, granting of leave days are subject to leave availability /
exigencies of work. The Employee may not waive this vacation or request cash compensation instead.


Air Ticket:
The Company shall provide the Employee with round trip Premium excursion air ticket from Canada
to home country or any country of your choice (Nearest International Airport) for every 1 year of
continued service with the Company.
Your employment will commence on the 20th of Aug, 2018. We are delighted to extend this offer
to join our company.
Also, please report to us, for documentation and orientation. If this resumption date is
not acceptable, please contact us immediately.


Acceptance:
Please sign and return the duplicate copy of this as a token of your acceptance. Further, kindly
furnish the Signed acceptance of the offer immediately to us. The signed copy should be scanned and
mailed to the undersigned within 3 working days of the receipt of this offer, failing which the offer
will automatically lapse.
All other terms and conditions of this offer are subject to the existing visa, Immigration and other laws
of XXX Construction Company.
We are confident you will be able to make a significant contribution to the continuity of the success
of our company and look forward to working with you

General Terms:
Your appointment and placement on the rolls of the company is on the basis of the information
furnished by you and in the event of such furnished by you is found materially inaccurate or
false, your services are liable to be terminated immediately in addition to and without prejudice
to any what so-ever right of action the company may have against you.
The highlighted in red raises a red flag to me... specially for employees on local Canadian contracts.
Middle East countries(UAE, Saudi, Qatar, Oman, Kuwait, Bahrain etc.) offer return airfares, accommodation, healthcare benefits etc.
The vacation days also seem unrealistic for new employees e.g. Ontario has the following vacation policy: https://www.ontario.ca/document/your-guide-employment-standards-act/vacation

Salary level is way high (i am not saying that your dad does not deserve it, i am saying it from avg salary level here within Canada)
These are the avg salary levels: https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/civil-engineering-project-manager-salary-SRCH_KO0,33.htm and the packages are annual before any tax, employee insurance and pension.

I am more concerned that once you end up sharing the documents(which I don't think you should, because the documents can be misused for identity theft), the request for payment will be coming up from them.
 

qureishi

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This is gonna be long, here you go.

JOB OFFER LETTER

Ref NO: 3467/EDS6441 09/07/2018,
Dear. Mr; My dad's name,
Passport Number: His passport number
Nationality: India.
Congratulation! With reference to your educational certificates copies submitted with us and the
online interview you had with us. We are pleased to confirm that we have selected you to work
with us, in our company (XXX Construction Company). We delighted to make you the following
job offer.
We are offering you the position of Project Manager. (code- 1221) at a salary monthly basic salary
will be 6,500 CAD + 800 CAD Weekly allowances. Total: 9,700 CAD, after the Taxes as Monthly
allowances
.
JOB DESCRIPTION:
As a Project Manager: Your responsibilities include: Coordinate internal resources and third
parties/vendors for the flawless execution of projects, Ensure that all projects are delivered on-time,
within scope and within budget, Developing project scopes and objectives, involving all relevant
stakeholders and ensuring technical feasibility, Ensure resource availability and allocation, Develop a
detailed project plan to track progress, Use appropriate verification techniques to manage changes in
project scope, schedule and costs, Measure project performance using appropriate systems, tools and
techniques, Report and escalate to management as needed, Manage the relationship with the client
and all stakeholders and Perform risk management to minimize project risk.
This position reports directly to our company (XXX Construction Company). Your working
hours will be from (8 am to 5pm) with an hour break, a total number of 40 hours per week
(Mondays — Fridays). This is a (Permanent) position.

Benefits Information to the position:
A) A Private Accommodation with a furnished sitting room and bedrooms suitable for a family of 3 - 5.
B) A Fixed land phone and an Internet ready computer.
C) Free medical care
E) A Day off every week and all fully paid Eight weeks' vacation in a year.
Leave Entitlement:
You are eligible for a paid leave of 45 days after continuous service of 12 months as per employment
act, upon obtaining XXX's ID. However, granting of leave days are subject to leave availability /
exigencies of work. The Employee may not waive this vacation or request cash compensation instead.

Air Ticket:
The Company shall provide the Employee with round trip Premium excursion air ticket from Canada
to home country or any country of your choice (Nearest International Airport) for every 1 year of
continued service with the Company.
Your employment will commence on the 20th of Aug, 2018. We are delighted to extend this offer
to join our company.
Also, please report to us, for documentation and orientation. If this resumption date is
not acceptable, please contact us immediately.

Acceptance:
Please sign and return the duplicate copy of this as a token of your acceptance. Further, kindly
furnish the Signed acceptance of the offer immediately to us. The signed copy should be scanned and
mailed to the undersigned within 3 working days of the receipt of this offer, failing which the offer
will automatically lapse.
All other terms and conditions of this offer are subject to the existing visa, Immigration and other laws
of XXX Construction Company.
We are confident you will be able to make a significant contribution to the continuity of the success
of our company and look forward to working with you

General Terms:
Your appointment and placement on the rolls of the company is on the basis of the information
furnished by you and in the event of such furnished by you is found materially inaccurate or
false, your services are liable to be terminated immediately in addition to and without prejudice
to any what so-ever right of action the company may have against you.
The job offer is really great !! but unfortunately its SCAM / FAKE.I have received lots of such fake offers in Gulf ..
 

zardoz

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Feb 2, 2013
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Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
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App. Filed.......
16-02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
31-07-2013
LANDED..........
09-11-2013
Thanks guys, appreciate ya'll chiming in :).
Please identify the XXX, as this will help others to check by searching the forum in future.
 

sam3218

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Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
1111
App. Filed.......
07-07-2018
AOR Received.
07-07-2018
Passport Req..
06-11-2018
VISA ISSUED...
20-11-2018
Rule number 1: if it sounds too good to be true, it is.