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bimale4bipeople

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Apr 15, 2018
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Hello,
I just got a quick thing to ask
I have been checking my updates using automated phone system regularly like everyday.
Does checking this frequently affects my application or is it fine?
Anything to worry about.
Thank you
No, but getting any information from automated system is also pointless, the automated system does not reveal much. I would suggest you to speak to an agent every 3 or 4 weeks just to understand if Eligibilty is done, BGC is completed etc
 

sahil1515

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Nov 6, 2017
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No, but getting any information from automated system is also pointless, the automated system does not reveal much. I would suggest you to speak to an agent every 3 or 4 weeks just to understand if Eligibilty is done, BGC is completed etc
Thanks for your help!! I will do that.
So this means checking regularly everyday do not affect my application and dont have to worry about it??
 

amypls4

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Jul 11, 2017
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I have submitted my E-AOR on 22nd May. My medical status is still "you don't need a medical exam. we will send you a message if this changes" What does this means?

Should I need to go for GCMS notes?
 

hemanthsamayam

Star Member
Apr 10, 2018
118
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NOC Code......
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AOR Received.
10-05-2018
Med's Done....
18-05-2018
I have submitted my E-AOR on 22nd May. My medical status is still "you don't need a medical exam. we will send you a message if this changes" What does this means?

Should I need to go for GCMS notes?
That means your medical is not yet passed.
And for GCMS note wait at least 45 days to order your first one
 

amypls4

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Jul 11, 2017
227
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I have submitted my E-AOR on 22nd May. My medical status is still "you don't need a medical exam. we will send you a message if this changes" What does this means?

Should I need to go for GCMS notes?
That means your medical is not yet passed.
And for GCMS note wait at least 45 days to order your first one

Hi my medical review status is ""you don't need a medical exam. we will send you a message if this changes" and my Background Check status is "Your application is in progress. We will send a message when we start your background check".
What does this means.


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legalfalcon

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Sep 21, 2015
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Category........
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Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hello,
I just got a quick thing to ask
I have been checking my updates using automated phone system regularly like everyday.
Does checking this frequently affects my application or is it fine?
Anything to worry about.
Thank you
It has no impact on the processing of your application.
 

legalfalcon

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Sep 21, 2015
19,048
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Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
I have submitted my E-AOR on 22nd May. My medical status is still "you don't need a medical exam. we will send you a message if this changes" What does this means?

Should I need to go for GCMS notes?
GCMS is of no use in the first 45 days. Check my post on the same issue here:

https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/march-2018-aor-join-here.546504/page-155#post-7032535

Also generally check - https://www.getgcms.com/blog/express-entry-application-processed/

https://www.getgcms.com/blog/gcms-notes-contain-vital-information-keep-safe/
 
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legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,048
9,916
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
I am writing this as there has been a growing number of cases with incorrect information and most applicants indulging in practices which harm than do any good. Here is a list of those issues which have surfaced -


1. Telegram groups - I had started 4 Telegram groups, 1 for pre-ITA, 1 for post ITA, 1 for PPR and landing, and one for Ontario.

To join - https://goo.gl/reGtFw

There is also a Facebook group, for those who do not want to be on WhatsAPP - Click to join
FACEBOOK GROUP


2. Visa Office

There has been an obsession of finding which visa office the application is at. Many threads on this forum start with explaining how to find your visa office. Let's get to the crux of it. Finding the visa office was very relevant pre- express entry. Even after the introduction of express entry in 2015, the same practice was followed which usually was for the paper based application, but that is no longer the case. Earlier all application followed the following trajectory:


Central Intake Office - Case Processing Centre - Local Visa Office

However, this has radically changed and for all express entry, all application follow the following:

1. Central Intake Office -
The R10 (completeness check) is done at the Central Intake Office for all classes (FSW / PNP / CEC). Now even the criminality and medicals are done at CIO.

2. Case Processing Centre - There are 4 case processing offices of IRCC, which are as follows:

Sydney, Nova Scotia - Seals with the following:
  • provincial Nominee Program (PNP) – Non-Express Entry applications
  • Centralized Intake Office – Immigrant Investor Program (IIP)
  • Centralized Intake Office – Quebec Skilled Workers (QSW)
  • Centralized Intake Office – Start Up Business Class
  • Centralized Intake Office – Self Employed (SE)
  • Centralized Intake Office – Quebec Business Class (QBC)
  • Centralized Intake Office – Atlantic Immigration Pilot Program
Now has started doing eligibility for EE applications in limited numbers.

Vegreville, Alberta
Deals with Specialized permanent resident application. Those following in the category of Medical needs, work permits, work permits for spouses, study permits, co-op permits. EE applications which have a downgraded category.

This is the place where you EE application will land if any of the members in the application have a medical condition. This is where determinations of refusal, monitoring etc are made.

Now has started doing eligibility for EE applications in limited numbers.

Mississauga, Ontario
Only deals with family class PR applications.
No EE applications are dealt here so far.

Ottawa, Ontario
This is the most important processing office for all EE, and it is also the Local Visa Office for in-land applicants and those applying from USA.

3. Local Visa Office - This is the office where you will be asked to submit your passport after your application has been approved. Usually the consulate in your home country.

These days all application after starting at CIO (where R10 is met), either start the processing of eligibility at CIO itself, or move to CPC (wither Ottawa, Sydney, or Vegreville), or are straight sent to the LVO. The trend has been to complete most of the processing between CIO and CPC. Since the applications are electronically stored, there is no movement of physical files.

SUGGESTION - There is no point sending emails to ask which VO your application is at, as that process is moot since the eligibility can even start at CIO. So save yourself some time and efforts and also save the human resources of IRCC and stop sending emails. Even if you know which VO your application is at, it means nothing. Most applications which are processed within weeks and get PPR, are processed at CIO, and this is a much faster way.

A few applications will see eligibility passed, and then go to not started when the application is sent to the LVO. This is because the final review is done at the LVO, and the local agent may decide to conduct additional review, or identification before the eligibility is finally set to PASSED.



3. Tracking your application

Unfortunately the only thing that you see is your MyCIC account. There has been a growing trend of speculation where change of status on MyCIC has been attributed to eligibility being passed, etc. The whole NA, IP IP2 is speculation and has no bearing on determining which stage your application is at. While any change of status is a good sign, but merely relying on NA and IP is not the correct way.

Most applicants will find it irrelevant, as their applications will be processed and approved within the first 3-4 months. It is those who wait for more than 4 months, where things go crazy as they keep relying on NA, IP etc, and see no movement or progress. Many other are stuck on so called IP2, and the PPR never seems to come.

So put these speculative theories to rest. As per the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act, regulations and the ministeral instructions every application goes through the following stages:

R10 (Completeness check)
Medicals
Criminality
A11.2 Eligibility (The most important stage)
Security

To read more on each stage click here. While most applicants will not need to go this deep, but for those who have concerns about the application or it is taking too long should see which stage they are at. Also, the only way to determine the stage is by GCMS notes. To read more on GCMS notes, see the thread here.

4. ECAS (Electronic Client Application Status) -

This was the most important tool pre EE to track an application and provided much more in-depth status than what MyCIC does. However, after the IRCC moved to the Global Case Management System (AKA GCMS) applications are no longer linked to ECAS.

So there is no point going there and checking.

4. Letter of Explanation -
As the name suggests, the LoE is exact what it sounds like. It is not an idea for the documents and you do not have to explain each document you are submitting in your application.

The simple rules to follow for LoE -

  • Should be 1-2 pages in length. If you cannot explain it in 1-2 pages, it is probably not worth it.
  • Only use LoE to explain an issue. Eg. you could not obtain a reference letter on letterhead, could not meet PoF 6 months avg balance, seeking exemption or extension from PCC, or to explain something in your application which is not clear.
  • IRCC Agents do read LoE, but if its too long and not to the point, it loses its importance.
  • You DO NOT need an index for your documents. There are placeholders for the documents just put each document there and when it is stored on the IRCC system it is names and stored in an organized way.


THESE ARE MY VIEWS AND YOU DO NOT HAVE TO SUBSCRIBE TO THESE. IF YOU HAVE CONTRARY VIEWS, JUST OGNORE IT AND DO WHAT YOUR CONSULTANT ASKED YOU WHAT YOU DEEM FIT.
 

rudhi

Member
Jun 22, 2017
12
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Mumbai
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PNP
Visa Office......
India
NOC Code......
6221
Guys, i called CIC last week and I was told that my file is being processed outside Canada at NDVO. Does This mean I have passed certain checks?
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,048
9,916
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Guys, i called CIC last week and I was told that my file is being processed outside Canada at NDVO. Does This mean I have passed certain checks?
If your application has been transferred to NDVO, then you most likely have passed
R10
Criminality
Medicals

and your eligibility should be in progress.

However to be sure at what stage your application is at you need GCMS notes, or your can wait.

To read on stages of an app see
https://www.getgcms.com/blog/express-entry-application-processed/