Waiting + 3 months since test/interview to DM. Anyone else?

[sappi]

hahaha wow ... I think we disagree on one thing ... i think the odds that ordering ATIP request could result in something positive is higher than it causing a delay. And that's based on observations on this forum. Yesterday read about someone that called cic and discovered that an oath invitation was sent to him but didn't reach his mailbox just few days before the oath date and by calling them they re-sent another one. He avoided missing the ceremony by calling checking on his status. Plus saw enormous amount of people ordering multiple ATIP and their process was smooth.
At the other side i never read a case where ATIP caused delays (it may have happened but never heard someone say that it happened to him)

Bottom line is i understand your point that the worst case maybe a delay to your application but i disagree that the odds of a delay is greater than the odds of a positive outcome.

In my case too, I confirmed that fingerprints were suppose to be requested way before i ordered ATIP and my interview., which means the officer had already decided on fingerprints in February, So unlike what dpenabill contemplated, ATIP and the interview after test did not result in fingerprints request. So definitely, ATIP did not result in any delay.

 

[jacZ]

hi,i did my test 2 feb and was in process since then...but DM today finally!!!

 

[imm_leb_01]

hi,i did my test 2 feb and was in process since then...but DM today finally!!!

wowww congratsssss mannn !!!! ENJOY

 

[jacZ]

wowww congratsssss mannn !!!! ENJOY

any change for you ?

 

[imm_leb_01]

any change for you ?

Unfortunately no ... i am hoping soon i did my test 3 days after you ... but i am keeping my expectations low since each case is different

 

[jacZ]

Unfortunately no ... i am hoping soon i did my test 3 days after you ... but i am keeping my expectations low since each case is different

hang on,i was loosing hope ,i really thought that something was wrong with my application,just give it time,probably very soon

 

[imm_leb_01]

hang on,i was loosing hope ,i really thought that something was wrong with my application,just give it time,probably very soon

Yes no other choice

 

[migrant-seeker]

I am no longer checking eCas for almost 3 weeks since my last phone call to IRCC. If there will be any change in my application status then I should receive either an oath letter or a rejection letter from IRCC either way there should be a letter in my mail box one day and at that time I will know what the status is.
Wasting my time and energy in checking online status and making phone calls is absolutely useless (in my own opinion) and is not worth it at all.
It will come when it will come IF it will come 50-50 chance)
I am moving on and my life has many other things to worry about more important than the a citizenship application. Life will not stop and will not get worse if there will be no citizenship. My life started before coming here and will continue if I will go from here to another part of the world.
I made a mistake by caring too much -for the first time in my life- about a certain subject and give it a much bigger value than it should and now I am back to ‘my’ normal.
Move on and don’t overwhelm yourself about only one subject which is not even a ‘right’ as they say but it is just a ‘privilege’ which may not be even given to you even if you think you fullybqualify because it is not a ‘right’
My thoughts only

 

[imm_leb_01]

I am no longer checking eCas for almost 3 weeks since my last phone call to IRCC. If there will be any change in my application status then I should receive either an oath letter or a rejection letter from IRCC either way there should be a letter in my mail box one day and at that time I will know what the status is.
Wasting my time and energy in checking online status and making phone calls is absolutely useless (in my own opinion) and is not worth it at all.
It will come when it will come IF it will come 50-50 chance)
I am moving on and my life has many other things to worry about more important than the a citizenship application. Life will not stop and will not get worse if there will be no citizenship. My life started before coming here and will continue if I will go from here to another part of the world.
I made a mistake by caring too much -for the first time in my life- about a certain subject and give it a much bigger value than it should and now I am back to ‘my’ normal.
Move on and don’t overwhelm yourself about only one subject which is not even a ‘right’ as they say but it is just a ‘privilege’ which may not be even given to you even if you think you fullybqualify because it is not a ‘right’
My thoughts only

I understand your decision and support it - however just a little advice: it's very useful to check the ecas because sometimes emails just don't arrive or go to spam and your ecas could help you know something you might miss

Me personnaly my test invite was in the spam and if not for ecas saying they sent me a test invitation i would have never knew

You can check it once a day in the morning without getting obsessed with it

 

[SpiceIsland]

I am no longer checking eCas for almost 3 weeks since my last phone call to IRCC. If there will be any change in my application status then I should receive either an oath letter or a rejection letter from IRCC either way there should be a letter in my mail box one day and at that time I will know what the status is.
Wasting my time and energy in checking online status and making phone calls is absolutely useless (in my own opinion) and is not worth it at all.
It will come when it will come IF it will come 50-50 chance)
I am moving on and my life has many other things to worry about more important than the a citizenship application. Life will not stop and will not get worse if there will be no citizenship. My life started before coming here and will continue if I will go from here to another part of the world.
I made a mistake by caring too much -for the first time in my life- about a certain subject and give it a much bigger value than it should and now I am back to ‘my’ normal.
Move on and don’t overwhelm yourself about only one subject which is not even a ‘right’ as they say but it is just a ‘privilege’ which may not be even given to you even if you think you fullybqualify because it is not a ‘right’
My thoughts only

Well I check mine every morning to make sure it don’t change from DM back to in process because there is forum members whose been changed because they transferred their file to another office.

 

[dpenabill]

I am not advocating use of ATIP reports

Good. That is appropriate, prudent, and is worth emphasizing.

The point, after all, is to reassure qualified applicants who visit this forum that there is no need to unnecessarily worry something has gone awry in their case. The routine, qualified applicant has no need to make an ATIP request for a copy of the selected GCMS notes which IRCC will share with applicants.

That is, unless there is a reason. And I have made clear that if indeed there is a reason to believe something is awry or there is a problem, the ATIP process is an available tool.

Likewise making a telephone call to help centre. Which brings up scenarios in which an applicant sees information in eCas but does not get the corresponding email or paper mail. That is indeed a reason to make the telephone call, to take the time and make the effort to get through, and to politely persist in getting the call centre agent to actually access the applicant's file to see if there is an issue and what that issue is . . . for example, if eCas is indicating notice was sent BUT no notice has been received, then that is time to make the call. And hopefully that day there are not too many applicants making frivolous, unnecessary calls making it too difficult to actually get through.

Ascertaining if there is a reason to make a telephone call to the help centre, or a reason to make the ATIP request, is of course a very personal decision. As I have oft observed, those who have a reason warranting either almost invariably know it.

If something is awry there is almost always some clue something is awry. In contrast, of course a large bureaucracy is going to have some wrinkles in the process, so sure some things may go slightly awry in the ordinary course of processing (i.e. a FP request sits a bit before actually being sent out), BUT the vast majority of the time these will be corrected without any need for intervention by the applicant, and that will most likely happen just as soon, or nearly so, as would be accomplished due to efforts by the applicant to discover it and intervene . . . the appearance of an intervention having an impact will usually (obviously not always, but usually) be no more than that, an appearance (acknowledging there are contrary views about this).

If there is a problem, the applicant will almost invariably know about it and why, or at least should know about it and why if the applicant has objectively examined his or her application and circumstances. Problems are a different and more complicated kettle-of-fish. Most of my time and posting in the forum, for several years now, has focused on a few common and thorny problems, especially problems relating to contested presence or residency (for the PR RO as well as citizenship), including why this happens and, in particular, what constitutes proof of presence, with only passing reference to problems derived from security concerns (there are a few other issues I stay abreast of, like the impact of cessation proceedings on certain citizenship applicants). When problems are at a stage for which an ATIP request is a good idea, that usually calls for a customized ATIP request, which is not easy to compose, which requires real homework and an investment of time and effort, but otherwise (without the extra, diligent effort) the response to the ATIP request will be the same old useless, uninformative copy of GCMS notes for which IRCC has obviously created a generic report template in order to more efficiently handle scores of nuisance, unnecessary requests.

Problem cases are more thoroughly addressed in those threads in which the subject itself is the particular type of problem. Example: RQ'd cases are discussed in a number of topics specifically about RQ and proof of presence/residence.



As to clues about when there might be something awry, clues suggesting it might be a good idea to make an ATIP request:

The major reason why I have addressed this issue is that much of the discussion about obtaining generic ATIP generated GCMS notes tends to encourage or advocate doing so unnecessarily, tends to give the impression that it is a good idea to do this even if there is NO clue, no hint, anything is awry, tending to suggest that this is something important to do, bearing with it the implicit suggestion that it is likely there is something amiss and unless the applicant does this, the applicant's case is in trouble or will suffer an inordinately longer timeline.

That is, I apprehend there is an implicit (and some here more explicitly) message there is cause to worry and worry enough to encourage applicants to make just-in-case ATIP requests. That message is misleading. Qualified applicants need not worry.

Thus, again, I appreciate and I believe many other participants will appreciate contrary messages like this:

I am not advocating use of ATIP reports . . . [in effect, unless the applicant perceives a reason to do so]

Moreover, I absolutely agree and concur with encouraging applicants to at least periodically check eCas (albeit once a week should suffice, and twice a week is plenty), and so I also applaud messages like this:

it's very useful to check the ecas because sometimes emails just don't arrive or go to spam and your ecas could help you know something you might miss

To my view the most important aspect of this discussion is the reminder that generally, overall, the qualified applicant who accurately and appropriately provided information in the application, and who has notice the application being received (AOR), does NOT NEED to WORRY. Watch for notices or correspondences (including periodically checking eCas), prepare for the test (if required), and WAIT. That's it. That is it unless along the way something suggests things have gone awry (applicants with known risk of a problem are a separate deal).


Relationship to timeline hysteria:

The other way-over-the-top incendiary discussions in the forum involve an excessive, virtually obsessive timeline watch including timeline comparisons. The fact that other apparently very similar applicants (such as same date of application, same local office) have made it to the next step sooner is NOT a clue something is awry. The timeline varies, and varies considerably, and there is virtually NOTHING an applicant can do to accelerate his or her own timeline. It will take as long is takes. And that will vary a lot from one applicant to another, even for applicants who applied on the same day and are processed in the same local office. This is true notwithstanding the rare report in which this or that applicant claims an ATIP request led to getting to the next step faster; except in very isolated, peculiar circumstances there is NO support for the proposition an applicant can save time by making a generic ATIP request. The fact that another similar applicant was scheduled for the test two or three months sooner is NOT a reason to worry or obtain an ATIP report. The fact that another similar applicant got the oath two or four months sooner after the test is NOT a reason to worry or obtain an ATIP report.

 

[sappi]

Good. That is appropriate, prudent, and is worth emphasizing.

The point, after all, is to reassure qualified applicants who visit this forum that there is no need to unnecessarily worry something has gone awry in their case. The routine, qualified applicant has no need to make an ATIP request for a copy of the selected GCMS notes which IRCC will share with applicants.

That is, unless there is a reason. And I have made clear that if indeed there is a reason to believe something is awry or there is a problem, the ATIP process is an available tool.

Likewise making a telephone call to help centre. Which brings up scenarios in which an applicant sees information in eCas but does not get the corresponding email or paper mail. That is indeed a reason to make the telephone call, to take the time and make the effort to get through, and to politely persist in getting the call centre agent to actually access the applicant's file to see if there is an issue and what that issue is . . . for example, if eCas is indicating notice was sent BUT no notice has been received, then that is time to make the call. And hopefully that day there are not too many applicants making frivolous, unnecessary calls making it too difficult to actually get through.

Ascertaining if there is a reason to make a telephone call to the help centre, or a reason to make the ATIP request, is of course a very personal decision. As I have oft observed, those who have a reason warranting either almost invariably know it.

If something is awry there is almost always some clue something is awry. In contrast, of course a large bureaucracy is going to have some wrinkles in the process, so sure some things may go slightly awry in the ordinary course of processing (i.e. a FP request sits a bit before actually being sent out), BUT the vast majority of the time these will be corrected without any need for intervention by the applicant, and that will most likely happen just as soon, or nearly so, as would be accomplished due to efforts by the applicant to discover it and intervene . . . the appearance of an intervention having an impact will usually (obviously not always, but usually) be no more than that, an appearance (acknowledging there are contrary views about this).

If there is a problem, the applicant will almost invariably know about it and why, or at least should know about it and why if the applicant has objectively examined his or her application and circumstances. Problems are a different and more complicated kettle-of-fish. Most of my time and posting in the forum, for several years now, has focused on a few common and thorny problems, especially problems relating to contested presence or residency (for the PR RO as well as citizenship), including why this happens and, in particular, what constitutes proof of presence, with only passing reference to problems derived from security concerns (there are a few other issues I stay abreast of, like the impact of cessation proceedings on certain citizenship applicants). When problems are at a stage for which an ATIP request is a good idea, that usually calls for a customized ATIP request, which is not easy to compose, which requires real homework and an investment of time and effort, but otherwise (without the extra, diligent effort) the response to the ATIP request will be the same old useless, uninformative copy of GCMS notes for which IRCC has obviously created a generic report template in order to more efficiently handle scores of nuisance, unnecessary requests.

Problem cases are more thoroughly addressed in those threads in which the subject itself is the particular type of problem. Example: RQ'd cases are discussed in a number of topics specifically about RQ and proof of presence/residence.



As to clues about when there might be something awry, clues suggesting it might be a good idea to make an ATIP request:

The major reason why I have addressed this issue is that much of the discussion about obtaining generic ATIP generated GCMS notes tends to encourage or advocate doing so unnecessarily, tends to give the impression that it is a good idea to do this even if there is NO clue, no hint, anything is awry, tending to suggest that this is something important to do, bearing with it the implicit suggestion that it is likely there is something amiss and unless the applicant does this, the applicant's case is in trouble or will suffer an inordinately longer timeline.

That is, I apprehend there is an implicit (and some here more explicitly) message there is cause to worry and worry enough to encourage applicants to make just-in-case ATIP requests. That message is misleading. Qualified applicants need not worry.

Thus, again, I appreciate and I believe many other participants will appreciate contrary messages like this:



Moreover, I absolutely agree and concur with encouraging applicants to at least periodically check eCas (albeit once a week should suffice, and twice a week is plenty), and so I also applaud messages like this:



To my view the most important aspect of this discussion is the reminder that generally, overall, the qualified applicant who accurately and appropriately provided information in the application, and who has notice the application being received (AOR), does NOT NEED to WORRY. Watch for notices or correspondences (including periodically checking eCas), prepare for the test (if required), and WAIT. That's it. That is it unless along the way something suggests things have gone awry (applicants with known risk of a problem are a separate deal).


Relationship to timeline hysteria:

The other way-over-the-top incendiary discussions in the forum involve an excessive, virtually obsessive timeline watch including timeline comparisons. The fact that other apparently very similar applicants (such as same date of application, same local office) have made it to the next step sooner is NOT a clue something is awry. The timeline varies, and varies considerably, and there is virtually NOTHING an applicant can do to accelerate his or her own timeline. It will take as long is takes. And that will vary a lot from one applicant to another, even for applicants who applied on the same day and are processed in the same local office. This is true notwithstanding the rare report in which this or that applicant claims an ATIP request led to getting to the next step faster; except in very isolated, peculiar circumstances there is NO support for the proposition an applicant can save time by making a generic ATIP request. The fact that another similar applicant was scheduled for the test two or three months sooner is NOT a reason to worry or obtain an ATIP report. The fact that another similar applicant got the oath two or four months sooner after the test is NOT a reason to worry or obtain an ATIP report.

Glad we are on the same page. It is good that we offer our opinions but let others decide what they want to do and not try and suggest what people "should" do unless asked. Word of advice.. you should be careful in contemplating on someone else's situation unless you are certain. In my case, I confirmed that neither ATIP nor the interview after test resulted in fingerprint request. It was decided way before my intervention. The same intervention that you suggested "could be" the reason for FP request.

 

[imm_leb_01]

Any news people ?

 

[Towhida]

I am no longer checking eCas for almost 3 weeks since my last phone call to IRCC. If there will be any change in my application status then I should receive either an oath letter or a rejection letter from IRCC either way there should be a letter in my mail box one day and at that time I will know what the status is.
Wasting my time and energy in checking online status and making phone calls is absolutely useless (in my own opinion) and is not worth it at all.
It will come when it will come IF it will come 50-50 chance)
I am moving on and my life has many other things to worry about more important than the a citizenship application. Life will not stop and will not get worse if there will be no citizenship. My life started before coming here and will continue if I will go from here to another part of the world.
I made a mistake by caring too much -for the first time in my life- about a certain subject and give it a much bigger value than it should and now I am back to ‘my’ normal.
Move on and don’t overwhelm yourself about only one subject which is not even a ‘right’ as they say but it is just a ‘privilege’ which may not be even given to you even if you think you fullybqualify because it is not a ‘right’
My thoughts only

Thanks for the post. It’s ease up my worries . Now relaxed and can concentrate on other issues in life . Citizenship is not everything . It will come when it’s time ... no checking eCas. Take care. Thanks again .

 

[cowwwanita]

Same thing happened to me. I had the test 3 weeks before my husband, my application is still IP but my husband got DM already. Meh. No request for me tho.