October 11th 2017 - Citizenship Applicants under 3/5 rule

[lpc19800]

Could someone update the tracker? I got In Process on December 20. Thanks!

 

[razerblade]

Could someone update the tracker? I got In Process on December 20. Thanks!

Done. Good luck

 

[Gateway!]

What does it state in ECAS when it's a QA request?? Coz we know if it's a finger print request ppl had said it's updated as below

1. We sent you correspondence on December 20, 2017. If you have not yet provided the information or the requested documents, please do so as soon as possible. Please wait until you receive the correspondence before sending us additional information, as the correspondence will outline all information that is required.

For myself, the message above, usually in line 4, was for the fingerprint.

 

[Gateway!]

Please update:
Citizenship Application
Sent: Oct 11, 2017
Arrived: Oct 16, 2017
AOR: Nov 14, 2017
City: Edmonton
IP: Nov 28, 2017
FP: Dec 28, 2017

 

[razerblade]

Please update:
Citizenship Application
Sent: Oct 11, 2017
Arrived: Oct 16, 2017
AOR: Nov 14, 2017
City: Edmonton
IP: Nov 28, 2017
FP: Dec 28, 2017

Updated.

 

[darshak]

Please update:
Citizenship Application
Sent: Oct 11, 2017
Arrived: Oct 16, 2017
AOR: Nov 14, 2017
City: Edmonton
IP: Nov 28, 2017
FP: Dec 28, 2017

 

[darshak]

hi ,
did you received mail or ur e-case saws 4th line with additional information request?

 

[rajmalhotra7]

Summary (by Date Delivered) of October 2017 applicants as per Google tracker:

Date Delivered- #Total---- #AOR-- %AOR----- #Awaiting AOR-- #In-Process-%In-Process- #Test Invites
2-Oct-17-------4-----------4-------100.0%-----0----------------4-------------100%--------0
3-Oct-17-------2-----------2-------100.0%-----0----------------2-------------100%--------0
4-Oct-17-------1-----------1-------100.0%-----0----------------1-------------100%--------0
5-Oct-17-------2-----------2-------100.0%-----0----------------2-------------100%--------0
6-Oct-17-------7-----------7-------100.0%-----0----------------5-------------71.4%-------1
10-Oct-17------6-----------6-------100.0%-----0---------------4-------------66.7%-------1
12-Oct-17------22---------22------100.0%-----0--------------13------------59.1%-------1
13-Oct-17------88---------82------93.2%------6---------------55------------62.5%-------5
16-Oct-17------259-------244-----94.2%------15-------------139----------53.7%-------12
17-Oct-17------49---------42------85.7%------7---------------22------------44.9%-------2
18-Oct-17------51---------47------92.2%------4---------------21------------41.2%-------1
19-Oct-17------84---------67------79.8%------17-------------27------------32.1%--------0
20-Oct-17------55---------39------70.9%------16-------------18------------32.7%--------1
23-Oct-17------31---------19------61.3%------12-------------9--------------29.0%-------0
24-Oct-17------5----------2--------40.0%------3---------------0--------------0.0%---------0
25-Oct-17------20---------13------65.0%------7---------------7-------------35.0%--------0
26-Oct-17------27---------22------81.5%------5---------------9-------------33.3%--------0
27-Oct-17------14---------8--------57.1%------6---------------2------------14.3%--------0
30-Oct-17------15---------12------80.0%------3---------------1-------------6.7%---------0
31-Oct-17------8-----------4-------50.0%------4---------------1-------------12.5%--------0
Total-----------750--------645-----86.0%-----105------------342----------45.6%-------24


Summary (by Visa Office) of October 2017 applicants as per Google tracker:- Visa office is selected based on best approximation to Location.

Visa Office------- #Total- #AOR- #In-Process- %In-Process- #Test Invites
Blank-------------13------10------3------------23.1%---------0
Calgary-----------99------87-----56-----------56.6%---------7
Edmonton-------45------36-----16-----------35.6%---------2
Fredericton------5-------4-------1------------20.0%----------0
Halifax------------6-------4-------4------------66.7%----------0
Hamilton---------7-------6-------2------------28.6%----------0
Kitchner---------21------19-----11-----------52.4%----------0
London----------11------10-----3-------------27.3%---------0
Mississauga---87------76-----50-----------57.5%----------1
Montreal--------101-----87----42-----------41.6%----------7
Niagara Falls---2--------1------1------------50.0%----------1
Ottawa----------47------42-----15-----------31.9%----------3
Saskatoon------28------23-----12----------42.9%----------0
Scarborough---18------16-----11----------61.1%----------0
St. John's-------5--------5-------2-----------40.0%----------0
Surrey-----------3--------3-------0------------0.0%-----------0
Toronto---------147-----124----79----------53.7%----------1
Vancouver------90-------78-----26---------28.9%----------1
Windsor---------7--------7--------5-----------71.4%----------0
Winnipeg--------8--------7-------3-----------37.5%----------1
Total------------750-----645----342--------45.6%---------24


Weekly Summary of October 2017 applicants as per Google tracker:

Week of (Mon-Sun)-- #AOR--- #In-Proccess-- #Test invites
Oct 23 - Oct 29-------13-------0--------------0
Oct 30 - Nov 05-------64------1---------------0
Nov 06 - Nov 12------78-------1--------------0
Nov 13 - Nov 19------110-----23-------------0
Nov 20 - Nov 26------148-----53-------------0
Nov 27 - Dec 03------102-----53-------------0
Dec 04 - Dec 10------76-------77-------------4
Dec 11 - Dec 17------36-------81-------------3
Dec 18 - Dec 24------14-------41------------12
Dec 25 - Dec 31------4--------12-------------5
Total--------------------645-----342-----------24

 

[sgtrigger]

Hi everyone, my application was delivered on October 26, 2017 however, on not hearing from CIC, I called them on December 29. The agent on the phone said that she could not trace my application anywhere in the system and at first took my Canada Post tracking number and payment receipt and said she would send a message to the citizenship dept. However, she called back after 5 minutes saying that this procedure no longer exists and they've been directed to tell people that they should resubmit their application as at this point my application would be considered lost. She said I can use the same payment receipt as it's still valid and not been used. Currently applications received on November 8, 2017 are in process and she said that means your application is most likely lost either at their end or if they sent it back to me, then by Canada Post. If you call CIC, the automated system tells you which dates are currently in process. I am resubmitting my application tomorrow.

 

[dpenabill]

Hi everyone, my application was delivered on October 26, 2017 however, on not hearing from CIC, I called them on December 29. The agent on the phone said that she could not trace my application anywhere in the system and at first took my Canada Post tracking number and payment receipt and said she would send a message to the citizenship dept. However, she called back after 5 minutes saying that this procedure no longer exists and they've been directed to tell people that they should resubmit their application as at this point my application would be considered lost. She said I can use the same payment receipt as it's still valid and not been used. Currently applications received on November 8, 2017 are in process and she said that means your application is most likely lost either at their end or if they sent it back to me, then by Canada Post. If you call CIC, the automated system tells you which dates are currently in process. I am resubmitting my application tomorrow.

WAIT! Best to give it another four or six weeks before taking any action. Or longer.

The likelihood the application is lost is REMOTE. The likelihood it is sitting in some queue waiting for a processing agent to take action on it is much, much higher.

In the meantime, something in the range of 40,000 applications were submitted in October. This is more than during a full eight months following the last major change to citizenship requirements. Scores of October applicants are still reporting NO AOR yet.

Forum participants are reporting totally inconsistent advice from call centre representatives. BUT this is not even the kind of information call centre agents can reasonably or reliably provide: they are not even in processing or administrative circles let alone management. At best they have online FAQ scripts they use to answer questions, FAQ like questions. Once an application is in process, they can access the GCMS for the application and report certain details for an individual applicant. BUT that is limited information and they cannot do even this unless and until AOR and a GCMS file number is known.

It is readily apparent that IRCC is currently overwhelmed with questions which do NOT need to be asked and which are not really within the scope of the call centre agent's duties.

Overall, it was obvious that there would be a huge rush in October. So those who chose to make an application among the tens of thousands rushing it will need to be patient.

Give it some time.

 

[way4infinity]

Guys, I have a question; and I will appreciate your answers.
I want to add information to my application. Should I send it now by web form or wait until my application is in process?

 

[Abu Hassaan]

Guys, I have a question; and I will appreciate your answers.
I want to add information to my application. Should I send it now by web form or wait until my application is in process?

If I would be at your place, I would call IRCC to check which office will be processing my application. Then I would send any updated information/documents to that office immediately.

 

[way4infinity]

If I would be at your place, I would call IRCC to check which office will be processing my application. Then I would send any updated information/documents to that office immediately.

Thanks man! I would rather send it by the webform as I will at least receive something back from them to confirm they received the information. In this case, shoud I send it now as I received AOR, or wait until my ecase changes to in process?

 

[Stef.]

Hi everyone, my application was delivered on October 26, 2017 however, on not hearing from CIC, I called them on December 29. The agent on the phone said that she could not trace my application anywhere in the system and at first took my Canada Post tracking number and payment receipt and said she would send a message to the citizenship dept. However, she called back after 5 minutes saying that this procedure no longer exists and they've been directed to tell people that they should resubmit their application as at this point my application would be considered lost. She said I can use the same payment receipt as it's still valid and not been used. Currently applications received on November 8, 2017 are in process and she said that means your application is most likely lost either at their end or if they sent it back to me, then by Canada Post. If you call CIC, the automated system tells you which dates are currently in process. I am resubmitting my application tomorrow.

I would NOT do this as it can lead to two applications being opened up and confusion.

I applied before the rush in October and to the best of my knowledge NO application was ever lost in the preceding months.
Suddenly they start losing applications!???

Wait for a couple of more weeks and even then...send a webform and ask.

 

[sgtrigger]

WAIT! Best to give it another four or six weeks before taking any action. Or longer.

The likelihood the application is lost is REMOTE. The likelihood it is sitting in some queue waiting for a processing agent to take action on it is much, much higher.

In the meantime, something in the range of 40,000 applications were submitted in October. This is more than during a full eight months following the last major change to citizenship requirements. Scores of October applicants are still reporting NO AOR yet.

Forum participants are reporting totally inconsistent advice from call centre representatives. BUT this is not even the kind of information call centre agents can reasonably or reliably provide: they are not even in processing or administrative circles let alone management. At best they have online FAQ scripts they use to answer questions, FAQ like questions. Once an application is in process, they can access the GCMS for the application and report certain details for an individual applicant. BUT that is limited information and they cannot do even this unless and until AOR and a GCMS file number is known.

It is readily apparent that IRCC is currently overwhelmed with questions which do NOT need to be asked and which are not really within the scope of the call centre agent's duties.

Overall, it was obvious that there would be a huge rush in October. So those who chose to make an application among the tens of thousands rushing it will need to be patient.

Give it some time.

Thanks dpenabill and Stef for the reply. I was told that if they find the previous application then they would consider this as a duplicate and discard it. The agent also told me to mention in the cover letter that I had submitted a previous application and that CIC recommended me to submit another one and give details on my older application to them as well as the conversation I had with CIC. In any case, I'll wait for a few weeks then and see what happens. My application as such is ready but maybe I'll wait then for a few weeks. Thanks.