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Phillip10002

Star Member
May 18, 2017
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Hi LegalFalcon,
If refused a visa, visa later approved (Nothing untoward in the refusal)

a) Is disclosure required?
b) others on this forum have indicated that they have been able to supply their refusal letters. If I don't have this.
What do I do?
Is there a requirement to provide refusal letter?
c) will this have any impact on PR application and approval or background checks?
d) what additional checks are done by cic?

Thanks
 

salvatorexiang

Full Member
Jun 14, 2017
22
4
Hi @legalfalcon,

I have a situation here hope to get some help:
  • Both my wife and I just got COPR and PR visa, I am the primary applicant. But we have not landed yet.
  • Both my wife and I still have valid work permit and temporary resident visa.
  • My wife is going out side of Canada next week and returning one week after.
  • I don't have enough time to landing before hers return
Question, considering that because I haven't landed, so my wife cannot land before me, can she return to Canada as worker ? And then we can go landing sometimes later together. Is it possible ?

Thanks in advance. ;)
 

jojee2k6

Hero Member
Sep 6, 2016
748
231
Hi @legalfalcon ,

I applied online with family as an FSW-O for LMIA exempted WP. I am from Pakistan, but residing in Italy.

During IP2, CIC via ADR asked for providing copies of our Italian Residence Permits to be sent to Canad Embassy in Rome. I contacted CAD embassy in Rome via email, they advised me to email them without English translation, hence I sent scanned copies of residence permits. Since then there was no updates in MyCIC.

Later I realized that, I have also to upload these residence permits via MyCIC as status was 'YOUR ACTION REQUIRED'. Hence, I uploaded same documents (copies of Italian residence permits without English translations+ LoE).

Strange is embassy told me no english translation required for residence permits, and after sending them I am still at IP2 without status change and no response from embassy. Now I uploaded into MyCIC, status changed from 'your action required' to 'submitted', What would VO/CIC reaction, after submitting residence permits in original Italian Language, not english?

Would it be an issue and lead to the rejection of my WP application or VO / CIC will ask again to provide translations as well? Should I raise CSE?

Kindly advice!

Thanks!
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,049
9,917
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Whew, thank you so much!
OK..so I'll just meticulously add in all my previous addresses in the past decade as required, right?
Yes, go ahead and do that.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,049
9,917
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
@legalfalcon : please help me out here.

In 2015 I applied for tourist visa and in work history I mentioned that I worked with a certain XYZ company for 3 months. However as the duration was for probation/training period only, company didn’t provide me any relieving documentation after I left the company, also I am not able to find my offer letter as it was 12 years ago. So whole filling out EE profile I skipped this information and didn’t mention my 3 month tenure as I didn’t have any proof for the employment. Will this lead to mismatch and cause termination of my file?

It will not, but what did you show for these three months in your personal history, as in what were you doing?
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,049
9,917
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Thank god, thank you legalfacon for clarification.

Just one more thing, is this still not misrepresentation if Cic asks for pregnancy details in ppr email under the family composition change clause?

You have to inform IRCC when your family composition changes, as in after your child is born, not when you are pregnant.
 
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legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,049
9,917
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Thank you so much for all your guidance and support
I did recieve a notification( a very vague one at that ) regarding submission at a local VFS.
It doesnt mention any annexure in it as well. Since it hasn’t asked specifically, i shouldnt be worried ryt ?

And during my application process I updated via CSE regading renewal of my passport. Should i include the old and new passport during submission ?
You only have to submit your current valid passport. If they have not asked for any other document, no need to worry.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,049
9,917
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
@legalfalcon

hi there. i see the agent review 11.2 in my gcms notes, but im wondering why is it that the edibility still show NOT STARTED?
The eligibility takes place in 2 stages. First a case analyst will review the documents and will make a recommendation. This is what you see now. Then an agent will review a recommendation and that is when your eligibility will change to passed.

Also, it take some time before the change is reflected. So when you get your next set you should see the change.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,049
9,917
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
My wife is the PA and my daughter is accompanying her.We are planning that my wife will sponsor me on later. My question is while filling the EE form I did not seen any provision to add my daughter's passport details, whether I missed anything or in EE form we have to fill only the details of PA????
If its making a profile, you won't have anything there, it will show up post ITA. This is because when you make a profile, the dependents under 18 do not impact your CRS.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,049
9,917
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
One more question I have
My wife was working as an assistant professor till 2010 and it's NOC code is 4011. From 2011 she started to work as research scholar to 2017 what will be the NOC code for this period is it 4011or 4012????
Please help...
For the NOC you will have to see what matches the Job Duties.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,049
9,917
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hi @legalfalcon

Once I get the ITA I am hoping to give the POF as below,

1. Provident Fund (maintained in the company I work)
- What do I need to take as documents. Maybe a confirmation letter from HR?
To use the PR, you will need a letter from the financial institution with the name, when the account was opened, how much funds you have that the funds are unencumbered.

2. Provident Fund of my wife (with the Government)
- Government provides a letter for this. Is this sufficient?
Yes, see above.

3. Fixed Deposit (Joint with myself, wife and my mother) - will be removing my mother as joint holder on 31.10.2017.
- Will this be a problem? since it was joint with my mother prior to removing her.
- I added her to get a visit visa to Ausi for her, as show of funds.
Showing funds held in joint accounts and spouse’s accounts
If an applicant’s spouse is accompanying, the applicant can show the funds held together in a joint account to meet the PoF requirement. However, to be able to show the funds for meeting the PoF requirement, held in an account under the spouse’s name only, the applicant must prove that they have access to the funds. This can me done by the spouse executing an affidavit affirming that the funds held in the spouse’s account can be used by the applicant for the purpose of meeting the PoF requirements.

Similarly, if an applicant has a joint account with their parent, then the parent will have to execute an affidavit affirming that the funds held in the joint account can be used by the applicant for the purpose of meeting the PoF requirements.



4. Funds available in my Savings account
- This is a cash build up account. I send a standing order every month. On 03.10.17, I credited my Trust Fund money (obtained from the Government) to this account. How to show these funds?
You just need a letter from the bank with the following:
  • The letter(s) must be printed on the letterhead of the financial institution and must include the applicant’s name, the contact information of the financial institution (address, telephone number and email address), the account numbers, the date each account was opened and the current balance of each account as well as the average balance for the past six months.
  • Other documents may also be requested, as necessary.

Do I need to mention anything in the LOE regarding all of the above. I am from Sri Lanka.
No need for LoE. Also see https://www.getgcms.com/blog/proof-funds-requirement-express-entry/
https://www.getgcms.com/blog/proof-funds-requirement-express-entry/
 
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legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,049
9,917
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
hey buddy what is COPR or IMM5688 .. how will i get this ?

Will this be sent to my profile or will it come with stamped passports ?
When your application is approved, you will be asked to submit your passport and with it you will get the CoPR.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,049
9,917
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hi legalfalcon,
Thank you for your input.
My AOR is Jan 13, Eligibility & Criminality passed in June 2017, SS started on July 17.
The CSIS completed my SS on Sept 22nd and they have submitted their advice to IRCC and CBSA.
Is this routine for CSIS to send advice to CBSA?
Or, does this mean that now CBSA is going to do additional SS?
How long does it take from this point on when CSIS has completed the SS?

Again, thank you for your help!


Hello again,
Yes, my case is under SS since July 17.
My spouse or myself never worked for any government or military. We are dentists and worked in private practice in India. Right now I am teaching in a state University. My wife is not practicing.
With this background, how likely is it that our processing could take extended time?

If you are under SS, it can take a considerable amount of time and there is no set timeframe. You just have to wait. Working with the government is not the only factor, there are many other factors, the country you are from, your travel etc.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,049
9,917
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hi @legalfalcon ,

I was requested RCMP on August 22nd, It's due date to submit on gcms notes is Oct 22nd.

I submitted RCMP on August 29 but since then my criminality is in progress & they haven't verified rcmp (as i can see from gcms notes i received today).

Will they check rcmp next day of due date,i.e. 23 october?

Thanks
The due date is of no significance. Do not be concerned about the criminality, it will be done eventually, if it has not yet been. Some applicants see it as not started until the day they receive the PPR. So just keep a track of your application via GCMS, and that is all.