Citizenship Applications after Bill C-6

[ibry]

Doesn't make any difference, but please call IRCC for peace of mind

Will do thanks

 

[ibry]

Previously only one picture was required to be stamped. The updated photo guidance does state that all pictures should be stamped.

I'd be very surprised if their is an issue with only one being stamped - but I suggest following the guidance and getting both pictures stamped. I took the printout with me.

Thanks.

 

[sukhi7]

Guys I have lost my Confirmation of Permanent residence(copr). I will send a letter stating that it is lost and i have applied for the verification of status document? Do you guys think it is enough ? @spyfy

I think you can only apply when document is in your hand otherwise your application will be incomplete and returned. Rules in Canada are followed very strictly.

 

[spyfy]

Pl do not forget Last 5 years are considered in 3/5 rule. So CIC can ask any data for last 5 years. Or even more if they choose so. We are applicant.

No they can't. The four-year limit is fixed by section 22(1) of the Citizenship Act. It has, by the way (for the thousandth time) nothing to do with the residency requirement.

 

[spyfy]

Questions about PCC requirement:

Can someone please clarify these questions about PCC? (Please excuse if these are too silly!)

1) Our eligibility requirement for citizenship is 3 years. So, if a person landed on 11 October 2014, he is eligible tomorrow. Then why PCC is asked from people who were absent more than 183 days in the last 4 years ?
2) So, every one who just completed 3 years need a PCC, which will take more time. Only those who stayed here more than 3.5 years can apply immediately unless they have made the PCC ready. Am I right?
3) How many years were considered to determine PCC requirement before 2015 (before C-24, when it was 3/5 years for citizenship )? Was it 4 years or 3 years?

Thanks in advance

(1) The year threshold for police certificates has nothing to do with the threshold for the residency requirement. It is regulated in a completely different part of the Citizenship Act. So let me say that again:

It is a complete coincidence, that until now the number of years for the PCC (4 years) was the same as the residency requirement (4 out of 6). To ask "if the residency requirement changed from 4 to 3, why didn't the requirement for the PCC change from 4 to 3" is as valid a question as "if the residency requirement changed from 4 to 3, why did the election cycle for the house of commons not change from 4 to 3"

Also: Beyond the fact that by law they aren't connected, why should they be? Canada cares that you didn't have any recent convictions in foreign countries. Why should that definition of recent be connected to the residency requirement.

(2) Police Certificate processing times depend highly on the country. For example, in Germany, you print a one-page form, go to any notary and sign in front of them. Then you send it off and you get the Police certificate within 10-14 days. If you are not as lucky to have lived in a country where PCCs are easy to get, then yes, it means a delay in your application. I totally get that it is annoying.

(3) There was no criminal background check for foreign countries (only for Canada) before 2015. The criminal background check was introduced around the same time as C-24.

But again: The PCC criteria have never been linked to the C-24 changes in the residency requirement.

 

[NewPRReciever]

Hello Everyone,

I was looking at the PCC requirements for a person who has lived 183 days or more in any country in the last 4 years. I checked with ATIP and with all the resources I had (tickets, bills etc) and I see that I might be close to the number of days, but surely no 183.
As a precaution I obtained my PCC and have it on hand. Do I submit it, by stating NO in the check box for 183 days or YES. My confusion is are my date calculations correct? or not?

On checking the days I see that I am around 126 days [based on the calculations provided on the CIC site]. Would it be some sort of misrepresentation of information if I say NO (I have not stayed in any place for more than 183 days) and submit the PCC. Any help would be great and truly appreciated.

 

[spyfy]

@spyfy when are you planning to submit your application??

I think he is already a citizen being so knowledgeable.

Thanks for the nice words, but no, I'm not a citizen yet. Due to longer vacations, I won't be eligible to apply until January. So I have the "luxury" of not having to decide if I should apply now or in a bit.

So you all better don't clog my pipeline, yo!

Jokes aside, if I were eligible right now, this is what I would do:

• Download the NEW forms and the NEW guide on Oct 11
• Carefully read all the instructions to check what has changed and what hasn't
• Fill out the NEW residency calculator
• Fill the forms
• Sleep over it for several nights, then look at it again (Because for me that's the only way how I find mistakes when filling forms)
• Sleep over it again
• Check again that everything is in order
• Then send it off, probably in about a week or so

 

[spyfy]

Guys I have lost my Confirmation of Permanent residence(copr). I will send a letter stating that it is lost and i have applied for the verification of status document? Do you guys think it is enough ? @spyfy

This is from the application guide, right after the list including the CoPR:
You must provide all of these documents in your possession. If any of these documents are no longer in your possession, please explain why.

So, yes you could apply with an explanation letter. Be sure to explain it as well as possible.

 

[yezdi_in]

There was no PCC requirement pre C 24

Thanks friend !

 

[ibry]

Thanks for the nice words, but no, I'm not a citizen yet. Due to longer vacations, I won't be eligible to apply until January. So I have the "luxury" of not having to decide if I should apply now or in a bit.

So you all better don't clog my pipeline, yo!

Jokes aside, if I were eligible right now, this is what I would do:

• Download the NEW forms and the NEW guide on Oct 11
• Carefully read all the instructions to check what has changed and what hasn't
• Fill out the NEW residency calculator
• Fill the forms
• Sleep over it for several nights, then look at it again (Because for me that's the only way how I find mistakes when filling forms)
• Sleep over it again
• Check again that everything is in order
• Then send it off, probably in about a week or so

Yup. Sending mine next week after rereading like 10 times Lol. Better to have mine a week late than submit tomorrow and they tell me after 3 months that i didnt sign somewhere

 

[spyfy]

Hello Everyone,

I was looking at the PCC requirements for a person who has lived 183 days or more in any country in the last 4 years. I checked with ATIP and with all the resources I had (tickets, bills etc) and I see that I might be close to the number of days, but surely no 183.
As a precaution I obtained my PCC and have it on hand. Do I submit it, by stating NO in the check box for 183 days or YES. My confusion is are my date calculations correct? or not?

On checking the days I see that I am around 126 days [based on the calculations provided on the CIC site]. Would it be some sort of misrepresentation of information if I say NO (I have not stayed in any place for more than 183 days) and submit the PCC. Any help would be great and truly appreciated.

Obviously you tick the "No" box. If you are around 126 days I don't think you need the PCC. If you had, say 180 days, then I would be concerned.

Adding additional documents is not misrepresentation (as long as they are not forget of course ). But on the other hand it might make them wonder "why did he/she submit that certificate, there is only 126 days. Am I missing something? Let me check their residency again".

People who have been following me know that I am a strong supporter of the "only provide what they ask for and never more" strategy. I've been doing well with that strategy. But others have a different opinion on that.

 

[yezdi_in]

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Pl do not forget Last 5 years are considered in 3/5 rule. So CIC can ask any data for last 5 years. Or even more if they choose so. We are applicant.

Got it. Thanks !

 

[ibry]

Hello Everyone,

I was looking at the PCC requirements for a person who has lived 183 days or more in any country in the last 4 years. I checked with ATIP and with all the resources I had (tickets, bills etc) and I see that I might be close to the number of days, but surely no 183.
As a precaution I obtained my PCC and have it on hand. Do I submit it, by stating NO in the check box for 183 days or YES. My confusion is are my date calculations correct? or not?

On checking the days I see that I am around 126 days [based on the calculations provided on the CIC site]. Would it be some sort of misrepresentation of information if I say NO (I have not stayed in any place for more than 183 days) and submit the PCC. Any help would be great and truly appreciated.

We are hoping no police report will be required after today. We just have to wait and see the new rules but if you were not abroad for more than 183 days dont submit the PCC and click no just my own idea because the less unneeded(if there is a word like this) paper work the better

 

[rdecartus]

If we don't send application on 11th by the fastest option carrier option available, or say instead send application on 12th, will it delay citizenship in the end by several months?

 

[NewPRReciever]

Obviously you tick the "No" box. If you are around 126 days I don't think you need the PCC. If you had, say 180 days, then I would be concerned.

Adding additional documents is not misrepresentation (as long as they are not forget of course ). But on the other hand it might make them wonder "why did he/she submit that certificate, there is only 126 days. Am I missing something? Let me check their residency again".

People who have been following me know that I am a strong supporter of the "only provide what they ask for and never more" strategy. I've been doing well with that strategy. But others have a different opinion on that.

I am with you on that for not submitting unnecessary documents. But I am also guilty for a fact of submitting too many additional documents right from Work Permit applications, along with letters for reason on submitting those documents. Thank you for the advice.