petition to the minister of safety (security screening).

[Mina124]

Ooooooooooooofff

So, so, so much of that is just fundamentally - wrong. And the parts which are 'calling for', rather than false facts, have ridiculous implications.

'Outland Spousal Sponsorship process takes more than a year, even up to 3 years'
For some people. Others are done in mere months. This is extremely weaselly wording, wrongly implying that all outland applicants wait a minimum of a year.
'As young professionals, most sponsors have little vacation time to be with their spouse'
A very great many sponsors sponsoring their spouses are not young, are not professionals, or do not live in Canada.
'Sponsored persons cannot come to Canada as visitor visas are rejected'
Again, for some national origins, on their average. Lots, and lots, and lots of spouses are visiting, even living and working in Canada while they wait - some of them being from visa-exempt countries, some of them successfully getting visas or permits. The ones who are refused come from countries with high rates of overstay, who can't demonstrate an attachment to that country - so are unlikely to meet visa conditions.
'The separation of newly married couples is impacting their physical and mental health, putting their family and career life in danger'
Really, really not. Many of the couples could live together in another country, whether it's their shared country of origin, or their partner's country while they wait. For those who can't, getting married knowing they were in different countries was a choice. Their choice.

'If the security screening is taking more than 6 months, together with Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada, issue a dual-intent visitor visa or super visa for spouse.'
.... think about this one for a moment. Seriously. You're calling on the government to let people into the country, if their application is taking a long time because the security services aren't sure it's safe to let them into the country.

This petition is awful - there is an argument to be made for speeding up processing, but that's why the reforms took place 10 months ago, and soon we're going to be able to see how it's going, when the real life processing times can be put against the 1 year target. As things stand, this is the wrong time, and very much the wrong set of arguments.

For supporting of each sentence that is cited in this petition, there is bunch of evidence. This petition is evaluated by House of Commons of Canada. If there was something wrong with these sentences, they will never publish it for public.

Before make a joke for this petition do little research to find a truth

 

[spousalsponsee]

currently there are people waiting for 30 months and the IRCC website shows no improvement for 20% of the people and the minister of immigration is not taking any responsibility either that's why he directed us to the Minister of Safety and this petition is addressed at the minister of safety

OK, first off, the way you replied made it very hard to even see there was a reply, so just on message board etiquette, maybe don't put your claims inside other peoples' quotes.

20% wait a timeless time (I have recording from the minister to send you) and those are applicants who are stuck at security this is 60,000 overall and 15000 for spousal sponsorship (open data website)

It's not 'a timeless time'. The target is 80% to be completed within 12 months. 20% will take over 12 months. Whether that's 12 months & a day, or 12 years, they all come within the same 20%. Since 80% are targeted to be done in under 12 months, we'll find out in about 2 months how that's going, and a great many are approved in far less time than that, I hope you'll agree that it's extremely dishonest, and inaccurate to claim "Outland Spousal Sponsorship process takes more than a year, even up to 3 years".

For eligibility sponsor has to live in Canada specially for PR sponsors. IRCC calls randomly to verify the residency in Canada

You mean, specifically. PRs wishing to sponsor their partner must be within Canada when they do so.

That IRCC enforce this requirement does nothing to change the fact that many sponsors are not young, not professionals, and do not live in Canada. Citizens are not required to live in Canada, and can sponsor their partner from anywhere in the world, and neither PRs nor citizens can be definitively pigenholed as 'young professionals'.

Those who are in security screening are those nationalities which need visitor visas too. And this is a clear discrimination and unfairness

.... no, there's no discrimination in requiring everyone to be security screened. Discrimination, that would be letting people in without it. Which you ask for.

They are rejected visas because of the fact they have a Canadian spouse (for sample rejection letters check facebook)

They require visas to travel, and are rejected, because they come from countries with high rates of overstay, and cannot demonstrate adequate ties to their home country. If a person comes from a country where large numbers of "visitors" never leave, has no strong ties there, and a Canadian partner, it would be folly in the extreme to grant them a visitor visa, which requires them to leave on expiry, and believe they would obey it. The visa officers are neither naive nor stupid.

There are inland people under other categories PNP, EE who are in security screening even up to 8 years and who are living and working in Canada. Read FBI name check from google to understand how security screening worksBI

If they're living and working in Canada, then they have been subject to some kind of screening to let them in, and have a work permit. Your demand is specifically for people to be allowed in by security services when their delay was due to them not being cleared by security services. You cannot pretend to believe that's a reasonable request.

 

[spousalsponsee]

For supporting of each sentence that is cited in this petition, there is bunch of evidence. This petition is evaluated by House of Commons of Canada. If there was something wrong with these sentences, they will never publish it for public.

Before make a joke for this petition do little research to find a truth

Pretty much every sentence in the petition is either false, or flawed, as explained. That petition is a joke, and please don't pretend otherwise. Also,you don't seem to understand the role of petitions, and the way they get online; the Clerk has no role in verifying the accuracy or otherwise of the claims made. The only verification is that they appear in the correct format, and contain a demand (which, in this case, has no hope of being entertained because it's a ridiculous request, based on false premises).

 

[spousalsponsee]

The petition is read by many people including the lawyers, ministers and MPs before approval and going live and it is unfortunate that you think it is at a high school level student.

I''m sorry, I'm actually sitting here sniggering at this point, because this is really adorable. I have no idea how you think petitions get to a website, but a basic guideline: Submitted, checked to see there's no violently offensive language, is someone willing to put their name to it, uploaded.

If any of the petitions on that site was checked by lawyers, Ministers, or MPs, it was done in their private capacity as someone submitting or sponsoring one. The petitions will eventually be read by those people (or, rather, their staffers), when it's submitted, and they reply "No".

 

[jman25]

For all the people complaining about the processing times for spousal sponsorships etc. what if you were in the USA or some other country where it literally takes years to be completed for many? The Canadian Government has one of the best immigration programs in the world and they really are doing the best they can.

They will NEVER be able to please everyone. Canadians are seriously concerned about the security of their country because as it stands, hundreds of thousands of people are immigrating here every year and many feel as if they are not being vetted properly; their interests are also important in all of this. Who knows how deep they go with security checks. Many times from our purview, our applications are 100% clear with no security concerns and we assume it ought to be a simple task when it gets to IRCC. When they get it however, they see something totally opposite based on their standardized checks that must be done.

Yes they need to think about reuniting families but National Security is actually more important and they will never speed up processing times just because you feel you're being wronged in some way by the government. If you cannot wait then go to some other country that you know of where you'll be processed in 6 months or less 100% of the time. Please be appreciative of the opportunities this great country has afforded us. For many of us, if Canada had turned down our visas initially, we would not have entered this country and be here as PRs now and able to file for our families.

If you have to wait a year then you just have to wait. Citizenship applications are no less than a year processing time so it doesn't matter, you'll still have a year or more to wait then.

 

[JulianaAndrew]

If you cannot wait then go to some other country that you know of where you'll be processed in 6 months or less 100% of the time.

What a great and logical argument, you deserve an applause.

 

[majesty]

Can someone make a petition which addresses the problems of of non-standardized processing procedures causing delays versus dwelling on security checks taking too long? The latter is totally necessary, as we know, there are so many threats to the safety of people of this country unfortunately .... just watch the news to see the tip of the iceberg!

 

[strength2]

You

I''m sorry, I'm actually sitting here sniggering at this point, because this is really adorable. I have no idea how you think petitions get to a website, but a basic guideline: Submitted, checked to see there's no violently offensive language, is someone willing to put their name to it, uploaded.

If any of the petitions on that site was checked by lawyers, Ministers, or MPs, it was done in their private capacity as someone submitting or sponsoring one. The petitions will eventually be read by those people (or, rather, their staffers), when it's submitted, and they reply "No".

This petition was suggested by one MP and then was sent to 5 different MPs including ministers such as the minister of family to find a sponsor and MPs including the critic MPs for safety and immigration were all for it. And they are lawyers involved for helping a class action lawsuit right now who liked the content. Also it was not written by one person and it needed up to 10 supporters from applicants in this situation.

 

[strength2]

For all the people complaining about the processing times for spousal sponsorships etc. what if you were in the USA or some other country where it literally takes years to be completed for many? The Canadian Government has one of the best immigration programs in the world and they really are doing the best they can.

They will NEVER be able to please everyone. Canadians are seriously concerned about the security of their country because as it stands, hundreds of thousands of people are immigrating here every year and many feel as if they are not being vetted properly; their interests are also important in all of this. Who knows how deep they go with security checks. Many times from our purview, our applications are 100% clear with no security concerns and we assume it ought to be a simple task when it gets to IRCC. When they get it however, they see something totally opposite based on their standardized checks that must be done.

Yes they need to think about reuniting families but National Security is actually more important and they will never speed up processing times just because you feel you're being wronged in some way by the government. If you cannot wait then go to some other country that you know of where you'll be processed in 6 months or less 100% of the time. Please be appreciative of the opportunities this great country has afforded us. For many of us, if Canada had turned down our visas initially, we would not have entered this country and be here as PRs now and able to file for our families.

If you have to wait a year then you just have to wait. Citizenship applications are no less than a year processing time so it doesn't matter, you'll still have a year or more to wait then.

How come work permits are given to asylums in couple of weeks and they live and work in canada even if they are under screening. Also the spouse from certain countries that dont need visa or gets visa easily are living in canada and inland applicants are in security for up to 8 years while their normal life is not stopped? Check Australia, England, Newzeland, etc and even third world countries.waiting a year is a wish some of the petition support ers are seperated from their spousr for 31 months and their family life is falling apart. Why as a Canadian you have to choose between your country and your spouse? Should u divorce or leave your country, career, parents and siblings, etc?!!!!

 

[spousalsponsee]

You

This petition was suggested by one MP and then was sent to 5 different MPs including ministers such as the minister of family to find a sponsor and MPs including the critic MPs for safety and immigration were all for it. And they are lawyers involved for helping a class action lawsuit right now who liked the content. Also it was not written by one person and it needed up to 10 supporters from applicants in this situation.

Yeah...... if the official opposition were "for" this, then (1) one of them would be pushing it, (2), it would look very, very different. You still haven't addressed any of the many, many inaccuracies, innuendos, and outright lies it contains. Heck, even the basic grammar would have been fixed. Being supported by ten passionate people doesn't make a jot of difference - it's a joke, at best.

 

[canuck78]

You

This petition was suggested by one MP and then was sent to 5 different MPs including ministers such as the minister of family to find a sponsor and MPs including the critic MPs for safety and immigration were all for it. And they are lawyers involved for helping a class action lawsuit right now who liked the content. Also it was not written by one person and it needed up to 10 supporters from applicants in this situation.

A class action lawsuit. Can't imagine a court will certify that.

 

[jman25]

How come work permits are given to asylums in couple of weeks and they live and work in canada even if they are under screening. Also the spouse from certain countries that dont need visa or gets visa easily are living in canada and inland applicants are in security for up to 8 years while their normal life is not stopped? Check Australia, England, Newzeland, etc and even third world countries.waiting a year is a wish some of the petition support ers are seperated from their spousr for 31 months and their family life is falling apart. Why as a Canadian you have to choose between your country and your spouse? Should u divorce or leave your country, career, parents and siblings, etc?!!!!

• Other countries have higher security risks than others and that's why applicants from those countries are vetted more closely than others. Every country does that (USA, UK, AUSTRALIA ETC.)
• Asylum seekers are a whole other category, many of which escape death by the skin of their teeth so let us not even argue that; they and certain spouses of which you speak are already on Canadian Soil so yes the Gov't will facilitate their right to work and survive (they're not savages). Also, many asylum seekers come to Canada as visitors on visitor visas and then request protection upon landing. Canada is not privy to the intentions of these people and so cannot take preemptive action against them.
• Your question in regards to Choice is yours to opine; please be mindful that due diligence on the part of the government does NOT serve the interests of immigrants only. Though their interests are important too, the Gov't is charged to protect the higher interests of the entire country. That charge is a long, serious, heavy process and many will just have to wait.
• If you must choose between country and spouse by your own reasoning and by no direction from the IRCC then my friend do so. You know where your best interests lie and Canada knows the interests of this country are paramount. God's speed.

 

[strength2]

• Other countries have higher security risks than others and that's why applicants from those countries are vetted more closely than others. Every country does that (USA, UK, AUSTRALIA ETC.)
• Asylum seekers are a whole other category, many of which escape death by the skin of their teeth so let us not even argue that; they and certain spouses of which you speak are already on Canadian Soil so yes the Gov't will facilitate their right to work and survive (they're not savages). Also, many asylum seekers come to Canada as visitors on visitor visas and then request protection upon landing. Canada is not privy to the intentions of these people and so cannot take preemptive action against them.
• Your question in regards to Choice is yours to opine; please be mindful that due diligence on the part of the government does NOT serve the interests of immigrants only. Though their interests are important too, the Gov't is charged to protect the higher interests of the entire country. That charge is a long, serious, heavy process and many will just have to wait.
• If you must choose between country and spouse by your own reasoning and by no direction from the IRCC then my friend do so. You know where your best interests lie and Canada knows the interests of this country are paramount. God's speed.

The fact that asylums may be in danger (though I don't think Hatians are) does not make it safer for Canada to let them live here while their security is in process. Read the basics of security (google FBI name check). So letting a spouse who has no criminality and whose CSIS security screening is completed in on a visitor visa will not create any safety issue for Canadians.Just because CBSA/IRCC is busy to process normal immigrants whose CSIS is completed does not mean visitor visas should not be issued.

 

[strength2]

Yeah...... if the official opposition were "for" this, then (1) one of them would be pushing it, (2), it would look very, very different. You still haven't addressed any of the many, many inaccuracies, innuendos, and outright lies it contains. Heck, even the basic grammar would have been fixed. Being supported by ten passionate people doesn't make a jot of difference - it's a joke, at best.

Most of the MPs are educated and have a good command of English unless if you are a professor in English literature and you claim you have the best Englissh. Sorry I don't have time to answer you.

 

[Ahmelina23]

The petition is created and collecting votes daily, so there's no need to discuss all of that.
I can only add one more thing, a person won't understand what another person is going through until he'll be in his shoes!