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4RyL

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Hello guys,

I am a little confused here. my CRS is 405 . Appeared for ielts 3 times and couldnt get 9 clb just by 0.5 point everytime. Next available ielts date is 29th july therefore 1.5 months to get my results. I have just Just recieved Ontario PNP NOI (i do not have strong ties to ontario, just one family friend and a friend, brother is going for bachelors and has received acceptance letter but no visa).

Should i go for PNP or should i wait for the CRS to come down or should I book IELTS again?

Please help me out
same situation but i will wait for the ita or see the next two draws.. and decide on ielts...
 

Sharat

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Can we do a medical before getting the ITA invite.My consultant said we need to take the ITA invite with us.Is it true ? What all documents do we need to take to the physician ?
 

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Can we do a medical before getting the ITA invite.My consultant said we need to take the ITA invite with us.Is it true ? What all documents do we need to take to the physician ?
Yes, you can do it before getting the ITA. No, you don't need to take the ITA invite with you. You simply tell the doctor that you'd like an upfront medical for Express Entry. I did this, as have many others.

You have to take your passport with you, and if the doctor asks for a photo, that too. Call up your nearest CIC empaneled physician and ask him to confirm that everything I just said holds good in your country.
 
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Sharat

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Yes, you can do it before getting the ITA. No, you don't need to take the ITA invite with you. You simply tell the doctor that you'd like an upfront medical for Express Entry. I did this, as have many others.

You have to take your passport with you, and if the doctor asks for a photo, that too. Call up your nearest CIC empaneled physician and ask him to confirm that everything I just said holds good in your country.
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Sharat

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Yes, you can do it before getting the ITA. No, you don't need to take the ITA invite with you. You simply tell the doctor that you'd like an upfront medical for Express Entry. I did this, as have many others.

You have to take your passport with you, and if the doctor asks for a photo, that too. Call up your nearest CIC empaneled physician and ask him to confirm that everything I just said holds good in your country.
I did speak to the physician.They said they need either ITA invite or IMA number.Passport,passport copy and photos.
 
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can2174

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Doc's Request.
PCC requested on 08/09/2014
IELTS Request
Sent with application
We're not living in fantasy I would say!! I have a friend of mine who refuged to Canada a year back, mind you he barely can utter one simple sentence in English and now he is very well settled in Canada, btw, his qualifications is "High secondary school" no degree whatsoever!!

For me, not for ego purposes or taking a pride of that, I worked almost 7 years as a Chemical Engineer in one of the most reputable American oil and gas company in the world " Very Renowned in Canada as well" and most of the fellow Engineers who I worked with were Canadians, American, Britons, Indians and from all over the world who I believe gained me a solid traits that empower me to settle almost everywhere in the world. I did hold big meetings with big heads of the company and the clients discussing very sensitive operational issues associated with abstract Engineering knowledge " in English of course". Besides, I have got a bunch of Canadian friends in Canada who're waiting for me to join them,,, plus, I have visited 19 country all over the world and faced no problem whatsoever with any culture including Thailand, Japan, Europe to name some... what I'm trying to say is that STOP being judgemental individual and give your OWN evaluation on people who you don't know any thing about!

There're, unfortunately, many intruders in this post whose purpose is just demotivating people based on nonesense!!

Please! Stay clear of Judgements/ irrational estimations and Let the flow take its path!!

There is a reason that refugees are given permanent residence in Canada, after all they are refugees ie. they are not safe in their native country and their social life is threatened. Many countries allow refugees to settle, not knowing English does not mean they cannot settle in Canada, after all its a socialistic country, they will get social benefits in case they are not making enough money to survive. Now think about other people who would contribute to the economy of Canada to allow the government to provide social benefits to all of its citizen. Those people are like you and me called skilled workers. Under express entry program, IRCC prefers candidates with high CRS score which depends on the factors which I have already stated earlier.

I must reiterate that I am not judging your qualification or demeaning your experience, I am sure you have achieved whatever you have stated. I am not here to demotivate anyone but to give a realistic picture, it is utter nonsense to take my comment or thought as demotivating instead of preparing well for getting an Invite.
 
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can2174

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IELTS Request
Sent with application
You cannot be more wrong in your life, my friend. Let us, for a moment, agree that IRCC doesn't wish to invite candidates with low scores. Now, let us define low scores, which you most probably imply scores below 410, right?
If that were true, the EE system could simply render all profiles with low score ineligible for immigration and hence reject those applications, outright. The CRS calculator too, could state that up-front. That would save a lot of people from, firstly, crowding the IRCC database and secondly, spend money towards ECA, IELTS, etc.
If someone has an active profile in the system, which clearly states that one met the requirements, it is ones right to hope for an ITA, sooner or later. The CRS is just a waiting list number of the queue. It just denotes how long one needs to wait, and in no way restricts ones turn.

Where do you read that sitting at under 410 in the pool and waiting indefinitely make you eligible to get an invite. Not everyone will have an attitude like you, many would try to increase their score somehow and many new pool joiners might outnumber your score thereby making you wait for eternity. Let's be practical here, it's not only about ITA but its about Settlement in Canada which is really tough if you don't have right combination of skills.
 
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rajanuiet12

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I updated my EE profile day before yesterday with my new IELTS score. But i have not received any system generated email saying that the profile has been updated. Is that a problem?
 

can2174

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IELTS Request
Sent with application
so what do you suggest to those whose dream is to immigrate yet stuck at high 300 levels...?
that too coming here in ray of hope...don't miss the 'title of the thread' plz ...don't think anyone here is oblivious to the facts stated by you....and have not tried best in their capacity to better their scores...
I had dropped my plans few years back as my profession wasn't on the list back then...with EE I hold a chance...would you have imagined 413 an year back...I'm sure u haven't checked my earlier reply (and a link I quoted ) to see different perspective...
Ray of hope is slightly optimistic than realistic...there are another thousand more realistic discussions there in the forum...at least don't kill the spirit of the thread and the positivity it spreads...u may have noticed ppl getting charged up here going back to improving scores or trying any alternative left to them...it is not fair to come here and say 'quit'...
I'm @448...if u may want to know
I understand your emotions and your school of thought, having low crs does not mean that you cannot come to canada, may not be FSW route but PNP or as a student if you can. Currently many provinces are inviting candidate to settle in province by issuing nomination, there is a process to follow for PNP, also not everyone will be nominated, a candidate who shows strong affiliation to the province and with good settlement plan will be nominated, so it's not about just sitting there on pool and wait for IRCC to invite you, probably that's not the best idea, that's what I am saying.
. I am a landed immigrant if you may want to know. Peace
 
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BillHyatt

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As the data in the EE pool is not constant due to the continuous draws which are happening and lot of new profiles being added, when does CIC calculate the mean value. Would it be at the start of the year, maybe Jan 1, 2017?

Also, if CIC is actually doing this, by creating a lot of fake EE profiles with CRS ranging between 300-350, the mean value can be reduced even below 384 as more number of profiles would exist in the lower CRS range.

I was of the assumption that CIC is just going by the immigration targets they have for each year for their economic and PNP streams and the number of ITAs issued would be to meet the target.

As the ITAs to PR conversion is not direct, they would also account factors for the below while deciding on the total number of ITAs to be issued in 2017:
ITAs being declined
Application refused
Primary+Dependant in profile which would mean 2 PRs with 1 ITA

If CIC is going by their targets then it is very tough to calculate the lowest CRS cut off which is going to be reached by the end of the year as the pool is very dynamic and the draws do not happen over a constant period.
I have shared their ITA formula in the past. The mean has nothing to do with ITA or PR. It is a general assumption by CIC that this mean score qualifies for the definition of Competent Candidates.

Last year the mean was 441 but it has dropped to 384 this year. More candidates in the lower band cannot impact the mean.

However, lets just stick to ITA and that's true that scores are determined using number of ITA's to be issued per draw.
 

lino82

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I understand your emotions and your school of thought, having low crs does not mean that you cannot come to canada, may not be FSW route but PNP or as a student if you can. Currently many provinces are inviting candidate to settle in province by issuing nomination, there is a process to follow for PNP, also not everyone will be nominated, a candidate who shows strong affiliation to the province and with good settlement plan will be nominated, so it's not about just sitting there on pool and wait for IRCC to invite you, probably that's not the best idea, that's what I am saying.
. I am a landed immigrant if you may want to know. Peace
....peace & hope...
let's wait for the 66th draw...I seriously hope they will compensate with a larger ITA or back to back draws,unless they are intent on ur lines...
it may be worth noting that recently Mr.Ahmed reiterated the 300000 per year intake to continue for years to come...I don't know how they will see that happening if they are hell bent on 400+...believe me,the rush that u see here now is the years of pent up 'canada aspirants'...once that lot is cleared off I don't see them finding it easy to get 300000 PR applications per year....Canada is not as lucrative on many terms.....but those who love Canada love it and like me,many on the list have had plans since last 15 years...and yet,the total pool is only 50000...daily 300 new applications & 2 dependents per application will be required to meet 300000 an year (spread among all categories,EE & others )...let's wait and see...I hope u are proven wrong because those in this ray of hope are more passionate about living in Canada for more than economic or professional reasons...more of a long cherished dream....
 

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Hello guys,

I am a little confused here. my CRS is 405 . Appeared for ielts 3 times and couldnt get 9 clb just by 0.5 point everytime. Next available ielts date is 29th july therefore 1.5 months to get my results. I have just Just recieved Ontario PNP NOI (i do not have strong ties to ontario, just one family friend and a friend, brother is going for bachelors and has received acceptance letter but no visa).

Should i go for PNP or should i wait for the CRS to come down or should I book IELTS again?

Please help me out
Go with OINP.....I was in same situation with no ties whatsoever to Ontario and being in already in BC would have made a strong case of refusal. But i still got it
 

astralsource

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HEY I think this is a signal for a draw on WEDNESDAY

I saw this this morning when I was logging in!

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/e-services/account.asp

This online service will be unavailable from 3:30 a.m. to 5:30 a.m. Eastern time, on Tuesday, June 27, 2017, in order to perform system maintenance.

You can expect it 99%
 
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