Reasons for Rejection (Faraz Summary)

[farazafzal]

Reasons for Rejection and SUGGESTIONS
CHECKLIST (Do Not Repeat These Mistakes) -

1. Job not specified as full time (30+hours/week)
If you are on LMIA the word permanent must also be specified. --- Specify the details as per guidelines from CIC. Read this page carefully
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/intake-complete.asp

2. Job description mismatch NOC code. --- Job description and responsibilities shall go in accordance with NOC code. Job title could be misleading so keep the description closest to NOC code.

3. Failure to upload Educational Credential Assessment (ECA) (even though it does not ask for it on the upload page) --- ECA from WES (or other organizations) as well as scans of all the degrees and diplomas shall be uploaded. (Don’t expect them to see your degrees using your WES reference number etc.)

4. Passport Scan Missing/incomplete --- Bio page + any pages with stamps, markings, entry/exit stamps or visas.

5. Missing Original Police Clearance Certificate (PCC). Please follow this link to see the PCC requirements for your country
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/security/police-cert/index.asp

6. PCC was issued on a date before the applicant’s departure date from the Country.
For example, Mr. X is a smart cookie. Resided in Germany for 9 months and left Germany on 30th October 2015. Being smart he thought to apply for the Police Clearance Certificate from Germany and received it on 28th October while departure is after 2 days !! Applied for PR in Canada and uploaded the PCC issued on 28th October, while he left Germany on 30th October while filling travel history. His smartness has not paid him and he got rejected for the reason above! Don’t try this (at home), Readers discretion advised!

7. Medical examination shows some condition for which CIC officer does not feel comfortable. --- Eat healthy, drink lots of water. Exercise daily with 2 KM of walk every day!
"Does not feel comfortable as explained by member "Kryt0n" " is: You can be listed as a 'B' medical case but the officer will assess you against how much you are likely to cost the Canadian Government (currently $6,655 a year max - Thanks @DEEPCUR) or if you are a danger to the public. You cannot be rejected because you have a Vit C deficiency or a high blood pressure!!
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/medic/admiss/excessive.asp

8. If you were in UK and you received a caution for something, then it does not go to criminal records. If you get “no live traces” in PCC this means they have a history on you and you require an extra disclosure. "No trace" is the safe one. (Thanks to Kryt0n)

9. If you have spent some time in Australia, you will need to include traffic history. Applications will get rejected for not including traffic history. --- Always thoroughly check the PCC requirements of the Countries where you have lived. Do always match them against CIC PCC requirements.

10. Did not included Consent to Disclosure of Information Form for PCC in New Zealand. --- You must read the instructions really, really carefully before submitting application and not missing any form. This checklist will be handy! http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/security/police-cert/asia-pacific/pdf/instructions_police_NZ-en.pdf

11. A Labor Market Impact Assessment (LMIA) is expired. It has been noted in the posts that people who still have another month of expiry in their LMIA have faced rejection.

12. Submitted the downloaded copies of bank statements. The information was not on a letter head of the bank as clearly stated here.

Exceptions as posted by a member 'mgnlky' Some banks (at least in the US as well as RBC in Vancouver) will straight up refuse to provide a signed letter stating you have X amount of funds in your account. They consider it a liability to them because if they say, "On x day, x person had $12,500 in account 12345," and you use that letter to finance something but later in the day withdraw $12,000 of it, someone could come back and say the bank is writing fraudulent letters. (I know it sounds crazy but it's the US and god knows people love to take people to court here.) If you must submit downloaded bank statements, include a LOE explaining your bank will not give you a statement, as well as any documentation from the bank that indicates their refusal.
--- Time to remind the most important web link after you have received ITA. Keep it as sticky! Read it like a religious book throughout 90 days you were given by CIC.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/intake-complete.asp

13. Job offer letter didn't satisfy the CIC officer. Officer may comment that the job offer letter is not PERMANENT --- No suggestions here. All I can say is to get the contact details of CIC officer and ask him/her the special ways to satisfy!

14. English or French translation of the documents issued in mother language was not uploaded. They must be translated by a certified translator and at times CIC may request affidavit of the translator. Affidavit by translator is a must I would say. --- Get the translations certified from local govt. bodies to be on safe side. Read this policy:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/cit/admin/general/translation.asp

15. Original documents were missing and only translations were uploaded. "Thanks @ vensak"

16. In one of the “curious case of Benjamin Zip” a person reported the rejection due to distance learning degree. Person sitting in Italy did distance learning from USA. The degree received is from USA but the person never visited US. Inability to provide PCC from USA will lead to rejection.

17. People on LMIA, not having few words exclusively written (Permanent, Full time, Non seasonal) on their job letters will be rejected! --- Ask your employer to exclusively state this if they can.

18. PCC not scanned in color - that one is specifically requested to be scanned in color. -- -Advise is to always scan documents in color. Even if the PCC is in Grey color you should scan it in Color !! "Thanks @ vensak"

19. One of the Brazilian candidates got rejected because s/he didn't uploaded the Brazilian Federal state PCC (Only State police PC was provided). "Thanks @ astralsource-- reported May 10th 2017"

IMPORTANT: Please do not flood this page with irrelevant posts. Keep it a single document so that other people can benefit. I have scrolled through 100 pages reading every bit and spent many weeks looking for reasons of rejection. At times I have been overcautious in giving suggestions to fulfill the CIC requirements.
I have seen people reporting the rejection due to INCOMPLETE DOCUMENTS, LACK OF DOCUMENTS etc., however, I have not come across a single post stating a rejection due to “Many irrelevant documents uploaded!!” It does not mean that you leave mandatory document and start uploading irrelevant documents !

Let us keep this document live by adding more suggestions from other people experience. This is no way complete as CIC will never cease to surprise us. Please help me correct if I have missed or added some wrong information.

Good luck.

 

[mgnlky]

Is there a way to have the moderators make this a sticky post at the top? Not that it would guarantee people would look at it instead of making their own post, but it could be helpful to many.

Also, I do want to point out that with #12, some banks (at least in the US as well as RBC in Vancouver) will straight up refuse to provide a signed letter stating you have X amount of funds in your account. They consider it a liability to them because if they say, "On x day, x person had $12,500 in account 12345," and you use that letter to finance something but later in the day withdraw $12,000 of it, someone could come back and say the bank is writing fraudulent letters. (I know it sounds crazy but it's the US and god knows people love to take people to court here.) If you must submit downloaded bank statements, include a LOE explaining your bank will not give you a statement, as well as any documentation from the bank that indicates their refusal.

 

[Pawshi]

Good job Afzal. +1 for you.

 

[kryt0n]

You're incorrect on a couple of points.

1) Job not specified as full time and permanent employment.

The word permanent is only required for LMIA. You can have experience on a contract position as long as it is over a year. Also full time means mentioning the hours worked per week were over 30.

7) Medical examination shows some condition for which CIC does not feel comfortable. --- Eat healthy, drink lots of water. Exercise daily with 2 KM of walk every day!

Beyond incorrect. You can be listed as a 'B' medical case but the officer will assess you against how much you are likely to cost the Canadian Government (currently $6000 a year max) or if you are a danger to the public. You cannot be rejected because you have a Vit C deficiency or a high blood pressure!!

8 ) If you were in UK and you received a caution for something, then it does not go to criminal records. If you get “no live traces” in PCC you are good to go.

"No live trace" is the bad one. This means they have a history on you and you require an extra disclosure. "No trace" is the safe one.


12) Submitted the downloaded copies of bank statements. The information was not on a letter head of the bank as clearly stated here.

No. Downloaded statements from online may cause rejection. We have only seen one case of this in the last 2 years. Many, many people only provide statements with no LOE. Asivad only submitted statements with no explanation with no issue.
Please correct these!!!

 

[kryt0n]

Look, I know you are trying to help here but you are posting false information.

In addition, this is the second summary of rejections thread in 2 days.

 

[Chef Sumit]

Thank you for sharing this...

 

[DEEPCUR]

Good summary! You might want to include Krypton corrections! And yeah, trying to 'stay healthy' just before medical is not going to make any difference. One cannot offset some treatment just by walking healthy for few weeks! Any ways, doesn't harm to stay that way around the tests , it not all the time!

@Kryt0n - the costs for annual medical threshold has been revised. As of January 1, 2017, the updated cost threshold is $6,655 per year which slightly more than what it was last year! And it seems this is generally multiplied by 5 before deciding. So unless someone requires for treatment worth of 33k in next 5 years, they should be be okay.

this is the link for that - http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/medic/admiss/excessive.asp

 

[kryt0n]

Thanks for the update about the medical.

I'm more concerned a out the mention of no live trace' on the uk PCC.

No live trace means they have some kind of record on you but the charge is likely minor or you've served your time. In this event you have to provide more information. You have a clean uk PCC if it just says "no trace" only.

 

[xpressentry]

Thanks for the update about the medical.

I'm more concerned a out the mention of no live trace' on the uk PCC.

No live trace means they have some kind of record on you but the charge is likely minor or you've served your time. In this event you have to provide more information. You have a clean uk PCC if it just says "no trace" only.

No trace means no trace. If there is no live trace that means that there are some cautions. In that case CIC needs evidence of stepped down offenses.

 

[DEEPCUR]

Guys, make sure that you follow this updated proof of funds amount.

http://www.canadavisa.com/news/updated-settlement-funds-requirement-express-entry-immigration-canada.html

 

[DamhaSirah]

Reasons for Rejection and SUGGESTIONS
CHECKLIST (Do Not Repeat These Mistakes) -

1. Job not specified as full time (30+hours/week)
If you are on LMIA the word permanent must also be specified. --- Specify the details as per guidelines from CIC. Read this page carefully
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/intake-complete.asp

2. Job description mismatch NOC code. --- Job description and responsibilities shall go in accordance with NOC code. Job title could be misleading so keep the description closest to NOC code.

3. Failure to upload Educational Credential Assessment (ECA) (even though it does not ask for it on the upload page) --- ECA from WES (or other organizations) as well as scans of all the degrees and diplomas shall be uploaded. (Don’t expect them to see your degrees using your WES reference number etc.)

4. Passport Scan Missing/incomplete --- Bio page + any pages with stamps, markings, entry/exit stamps or visas.

5. Missing Original Police Clearance Certificate (PCC).

6. PCC was issued on a date before the applicant’s departure date from the Country.
For example, Mr. X is a smart cookie. Resided in Germany for 9 months and left Germany on 30th October 2015. Being smart he thought to apply for the Police Clearance Certificate from Germany and received it on 28th October while departure is after 2 days !! Applied for PR in Canada and uploaded the PCC issued on 28th October, while he left Germany on 30th October while filling travel history. His smartness has not paid him and he got rejected for the reason above! Don’t try this (at home), Readers discretion advised!

7. Medical examination shows some condition for which CIC officer does not feel comfortable. --- Eat healthy, drink lots of water. Exercise daily with 2 KM of walk every day!
"Does not feel comfortable as explained by member "Kryt0n" " is: You can be listed as a 'B' medical case but the officer will assess you against how much you are likely to cost the Canadian Government (currently $6,655 a year max - Thanks @DEEPCUR) or if you are a danger to the public. You cannot be rejected because you have a Vit C deficiency or a high blood pressure!!
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/medic/admiss/excessive.asp

8. If you were in UK and you received a caution for something, then it does not go to criminal records. If you get “no live traces” in PCC this means they have a history on you and you require an extra disclosure. "No trace" is the safe one. (Thanks to Kryt0n)

9. If you have spent some time in Australia, you will need to include traffic history. Applications will get rejected for not including traffic history. --- Always thoroughly check the PCC requirements of the Countries where you have lived. Do always match them against CIC PCC requirements.

10. Did not included Consent to Disclosure of Information Form for PCC in New Zealand. --- You must read the instructions really, really carefully before submitting application and not missing any form. This checklist will be handy! http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/security/police-cert/asia-pacific/pdf/instructions_police_NZ-en.pdf

11. A Labor Market Impact Assessment (LMIA) is expired. It has been noted in the posts that people who still have another month of expiry in their LMIA have faced rejection.

12. Submitted the downloaded copies of bank statements. The information was not on a letter head of the bank as clearly stated here.

Exceptions as posted by a member 'mgnlky' Some banks (at least in the US as well as RBC in Vancouver) will straight up refuse to provide a signed letter stating you have X amount of funds in your account. They consider it a liability to them because if they say, "On x day, x person had $12,500 in account 12345," and you use that letter to finance something but later in the day withdraw $12,000 of it, someone could come back and say the bank is writing fraudulent letters. (I know it sounds crazy but it's the US and god knows people love to take people to court here.) If you must submit downloaded bank statements, include a LOE explaining your bank will not give you a statement, as well as any documentation from the bank that indicates their refusal.
--- Time to remind the most important web link after you have received ITA. Keep it as sticky! Read it like a religious book throughout 90 days you were given by CIC.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/intake-complete.asp

13. Job offer letter didn't satisfy the CIC officer. Officer may comment that the job offer letter is not PERMANENT --- No suggestions here. All I can say is to get the contact details of CIC officer and ask him/her the special ways to satisfy!

14. English or French translation of the documents issued in mother language was not uploaded. They must be translated by a certified translator and at times CIC may request affidavit of the translator. Affidavit by translator is a must I would say. --- Get the translations certified from local govt. bodies to be on safe side. Read this policy:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/cit/admin/general/translation.asp

15. Original documents were missing and only translations were uploaded. "Thanks @ vensak"

16. In one of the “curious case of Benjamin Zip” a person reported the rejection due to distance learning degree. Person sitting in Italy did distance learning from USA. The degree received is from USA but the person never visited US. Inability to provide PCC from USA will lead to rejection.

17. People on LMIA, not having few words exclusively written (Permanent, Full time, Non seasonal) on their job letters will be rejected! --- Ask your employer to exclusively state this if they can.

18. PCC not scanned in color - that one is specifically requested to be scanned in color. -- -Advise is to always scan documents in color. "Thanks @ vensak"

IMPORTANT: Please do not flood this page with irrelevant posts. Keep it a single document so that other people can benefit. I have scrolled through 100 pages reading every bit and spent many weeks looking for reasons of rejection. At times I have been overcautious in giving suggestions to fulfill the CIC requirements. Please try to provided as many documents as you can without thinking that it might be an extra-/irrelevant document. This is to ensure that we get things right in the first go. You can spend 20 minutes of your valuable time for scanning all the documents (irrelevant) and save yourself a rejection of worth anything. !
Moreover, I have seen people reporting the rejection due to INCOMPLETE DOCUMENTS, LACK OF DOCUMENTS etc., however, I have not come across a single post stating a rejection saying that “Many irrelevant documents uploaded!!”

Let us keep this document live by adding more suggestions from other people experience. This is no way complete as CIC will never cease to surprise us. Please help me correct if I have missed or added some wrong information.

Good luck.

+1 to you!

 

[jfalvitez]

Excuse I have some enquires:

5. Originals PCC? I mean isn´t it uploaded?
15. Original documents missing only uploaded translations... In this case my certified translator always give me( attached to his work) after the affidavit page a copy of the original docuement (however is not in color is un grey scale) and after that page the translation. Is that ok? Or I have to upload even more another original copy?

 

[astralsource]

Excuse I have some enquires:

5. Originals PCC? I mean isn´t it uploaded?
15. Original documents missing only uploaded translations... In this case my certified translator always give me( attached to his work) after the affidavit page a copy of the original docuement (however is not in color is un grey scale) and after that page the translation. Is that ok? Or I have to upload even more another original copy?

There should be also ORIGINAL IN COLOR..

but is there a space in the application for the originals only and then the translated version or??

Can the translation version have the BLACK AND WHITE version or it should be uploaded like this: ORIGINAL IN COLOR+affidavit+translation? I m not familiar with post-ITA requirements of the system.

 

[astralsource]

What happens if someone gets rejected?

 

[DEEPCUR]

What happens if someone gets rejected?

Unless it is not for misrepresentation, one can go back to the pool again with new profile.