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lazybone said:
firstly....as you are an outland applicant, i am assuming they have left some sort of verification to be done at LVO or final officer....you may find out if the file has been transfered to LVO thru your notes..
like it said earlier, some document, most probably job related is being verified...or it might be something else...as your eligibility is passed (thats the big one), and everything is looking good on your notes...dont worry..
Thanks Lazybone, I surely hope it's nothing more than this.
 

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lazybone said:
firstly thank you!
yes I see ESDC is 0
your are going thru security right now...once cleared, field name should say updated and you will see s.15(1) on pages...as far as your application is concerned...everything is looking good....i am assuming it might have taken a month for the notes to arrive by which time your security must have been completed...
hitting the 6 month mark must be a little unnerving for you but its all looking good..just taking a little bit of time....hang tight!!!
Thank You lazybone for your reasuurances.
My notes were in fact generated on 20th July i.e. one month ago.
 

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lazybone said:
section 21 relates to csis clearence which is what your application is going thru...read this link(under clearances):
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/cit/grant/adult.asp

csis always withholds information...nothing to worry about there....

hope this helps!
+1 for ur effort

Can u tell if this s21 security goes with all applications or for selected few?
 

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I got my passport request today morning. it took me 8 months to reach here, after my file was rejected and then re-opened. but finally i am here.
AOR-Dec 22nd
REjected- in June
re-opened -8th AUg
rprf-11 aug
passport rreq- 22nd aug
Thanks
 

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lazybone said:
As far as the groups are '0' you are good there...
ESDC is employment and social assistance canada...i am assuming you might have a LMIA...and they are trying to verify the LMIA
check this link:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/econ/fsw/employment/esdc.asp

Check your activities you check whether you have 'actually' cleared security or not....read the activities section carefully to get more info/clarity on your application

hope this helps!
Why is GROUPS: 0 a good thing?

I have 1 in my GROUPS. Do you know what it means?

GROUPS: 1
Primary: Yes
Name: PR Inventory
Type: PR Processing
Status: in Progress
Create Office: São Paulo

Does this means anything bad?
 

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pujan3103 said:
I got my passport request today morning. it took me 8 months to reach here, after my file was rejected and then re-opened. but finally i am here.
AOR-Dec 22nd
REjected- in June
re-opened -8th AUg
rprf-11 aug
passport rreq- 22nd aug
Thanks
Hey pujan, congratulations on your PPR 8) , could you please elaborate little more the reasons for your first rejection? What does it mean you NOC code and FSW code were different? Did they mean that your reference letters showed another duties than your selected NOC?
 

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valsanail said:
Hey pujan, congratulations on your PPR 8) , could you please elaborate little more the reasons for your first rejection? What does it mean you NOC code and FSW code were different? Did they mean that your reference letters showed another duties than your selected NOC?
Hey,
NOC code on my bc pnp certificate was of my current job. NOC 6311, but i got qualified under express entry for FSW coz of my previous experience in india. NOC 0112 or something.
the refusal letter stated the noc code doesnt match with code which is on bc pnp.
so my lawyer had given them an explaination that i got qualified under bc pnp coz of fsw. and my ee profile was also created based on noc 0112, indian experience.
they told me in the refusal letter - i dont meet the eligibilty, which was very stupid as i got my bc pnp express entry certificate on the same documents.
 

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saadicanada said:
+1 for ur effort

Can u tell if this s21 security goes with all applications or for selected few?
firstly thanks!
see...from my understanding...it all depends on when you are ordered your notes that a particular type of security verification is going on and that information is hidden under that section...as you mentioned section 21 which relates to CSIS...that's the check that they are doing currently and the information is hidden on your notes...once the check is clear it should show s.15(1)...and under activities it would show updated or something of that sort....under assessments...security is always blanked out...

hope that helps!
 

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edilsonjr said:
Why is GROUPS: 0 a good thing?

I have 1 in my GROUPS. Do you know what it means?

GROUPS: 1
Primary: Yes
Name: PR Inventory
Type: PR Processing
Status: in Progress
Create Office: São Paulo

Does this means anything bad?
from what I have read...it may mean groups:0 assessment not started groups:1 assessment passed....sometimes people say it is groups:0 assessment not reqd groups:1 assessment required... people who have written about these are themselves confused as to what it exactly means
in either case, it does not mean anything 'bad'..
security as a whole is difficult to comprehend from notes, because most of the information is blanked out...its very difficult to decipher what exactly they are doing...
I believe you are pretty close to getting PPR as you must be from Feb thread(don't remember exactly)...so I am quoting a OP called expressentryqueen for you...she was kind enough to order her notes and post on this thread for our reference...she ordered it the day (a few days prior) she got the PPR and on her notes...groups are 1...hope this helps! and I quote-

"As a follow-up to my initial post on my GCMS notes, i thought that it might benefit everyone if i shared my GCMS notes once my application was approved to give us a clearer picture of the application process. Each application may vary depending on the applicant's circumstances though. In my case, i'm a single person, graduated from a Canadian university's masters program, with about 3 years work experience from my country, so i was invited under the FSW category.

My BG check went into progess on June 18th and i got the RFV mail on the 20th. I then applied for the GCMS notes that same day but it was not printed until June 28th, the same day that MyCIC changed to Approved. On the First page of the GCMS notes, it looks like this:

Updated Date: 2016/06/29 02:34:17
Updated by: VL16301
Primary Office: CPC-Ottawa
Secondary Office: Centralized Intake Office
App Status: Closed
App Status Reason: Approved

Assessments
Eligibility: Passed
Security:
HIRV:
Criminality: Passed
Org Crime:
Medical: Passed
Other Reqs:
Final: Approved

Client Details

Created Date: 2013/06/0919:00:47
Created By: EAIEAPP
Updated Date: 2016/06/29 02:34:19
Updated By: VL16301
Client/Party: PA
Counterfoil Required: Yes
Security:
HIRV:
Criminality: Passed
Org Crime:
Medical: Passed
Searched By: NS05229
Searched Date: 2016/06/19 3:00:52

EE ELIGIBILITY
ASSESSMENT:1
Type: Candidate Assessment
Status: Passed-Candidate
Status Updated Date:2016/01/15
Status Updated by EAIEAPP
CEC MEC: Not Met
MST MEC: Not Met
FSW MEC: Not Met
CRS Score: 473
PNP MEC: Not Met

Funds:
Number of Family Members: 1
Minimum Funds: Met
MST Funds Exempt: N
FSW Funds Exempt: N

Finalize Application
Document Issuance: 1
Created Date: 2016/06/1903:08:32
Created By: NS05229
Updated Date: 2016/06/29 04:08:25
Updated by US8315
Document #:
Document: Counterfoil
Status: Authorized
Valid to: 2017/01/03
Name:
DOB:
Print Queue:
Status Updated by: VL16301
Status Updated Date: 2016/06/28 09:34:16
Via: ExpressPost
Via Details:
Group #:
Assigned to: RC-9515
Assigned by: NS05229
Due Date: 2016/06/18
Printed by: VL16301
Printed Date: 2016/06/27
Confirmed By:
Confirmation Date:
Sent By: US8315
Sent Date: 2016/06/28

Counterfoil
Created Date: 2016/06/19 03:08:32
Created By: NS05229
Updated Date: 2016/06/29 04:08:25
Updated By: US8315
UCI:
Document#:
Family Name:
Given Name:
DOB:
# of Entries: ONE
Issued at CPC-Ottawa
Date of Issue: 2016/06/23
Valid to 2017/01/03
Subcategory: IM-1

Document Issuance: 2
Created Date: 2016/06/19 03:08:31
Created By: NS05229
Updated Date: 2016/06/29 04:08:25
Updated by US8315
Document #:
Document: COPR/CRP
Status: Authorized
Valid to: 2017/01/03
Serial #:
Name:
DOB:
Print Queue:
Status Updated by: JS5367
Status Updated Date: 2016/06/23 22:37:39
Via: ExpressPost
Via Details:
Group #:
Assigned to: RC-9515
Assigned by: NS05229
Due Date: 2016/06/18
Printed by: JS5367
Printed Date: 2016/06/23
Confirmed By:
Confirmation Date:
Sent By: US8315
Sent Date: 2016/06/28

Events:
Groups: 1
Created Date: 2016/06/24 15:46:26
Created By: JS5367
Updated Date: 2016/06/24 15:47:34
Updated By: JS537
Primary: No
Group #
Name: COPR Visa
Type: Batch Notes
Other Type Description:
Status: In Progress
Create Office: CPC-Ottawa

Application:1
Field Name: Secondary Office
Action: Added
Old Value:
New Value: Saskatoon CIC
Updated Date: 2016/06/19
Updated by NS05229
Office: CPC-Ottawa

Application: 2
Field Name: Final
Action: Updated
Old Value:
New Value: Approved
Updated Date: 2016/06/19
Updated by NS05229
Office: CPC-Ottawa

Application: 3
Field Name: Security
Action: Updated
Old Value: Not Started

Application: 4
Field Name: Eligibility
Action: Updated
Old Value:Met
New Value: Passed
Updated Date: 2016/06/19
Updated by NS05229
Office: CPC-Ottawa

Application: 5
Field Name: Secondary Office
Action: Removed
Old Value:CPC-Ottawa
New Value:
Updated Date: 2016/02/23
Updated by JR01169
Office: Centralized Intake Office

Activity: 1
UCI:
Name:
Sub-Activity/Activity Type: Security
Field Name: Status

Activity: 2
UCI:
Name:
Sub-Activity/Activity Type: Selection-EE Econ
Field Name: Status
New Value: Passed
Updated Date: 2016/06/19
Updated By: NS05229
Office: CPC-Ottawa

Activity: 3
UCI:
Name:
Sub-Activity/Activity Type: 11.2-EE MI
Field Name: Status
New Value: Met
Updated Date: 2016/02/02
Updated By: GM01154
Office: Centralised Intake Office

Finally, the Notes Smiley Smiley

Notes: 1
Created Date: 2016/06/24:15:47:42
Created By: JS5367
Updated Date: 2016/06/24 15:47:42
Updated By: JS5367
Restricted: No
Label: General
Office: CPC-Ottawa
Text: Original PPTs and Authorized COPRs Moved to Visa Printing Room for visa print

Notes: 2
Created Date: 2016/06/24:15:39:52
Created By: JS5367
Updated Date: 2016/06/24 15:39:52
Updated By: JS5367
Restricted: No
Label: General
Office: CPC-Ottawa
Text: Original PPTs and Authorized COPRs Moved to Visa Printing Room for visa print

Notes: 3
Created Date: 2016/06/21 07:15:57
Created By: AS14560
Updated Date: 2016/06/21 07:15:57
Updated By: AS14560
Restricted: No
Label: General
Office: CPC-Ottawa
Text: CPC-O RFV letter sent via email in a batch. No correspondence was generated as letter was sent via MS Word Letter template.

Notes: 4
Created Date: 2016/06/19 03:07:14
Created By: NS05229
Updated Date: 2016/06/19 03:07:14
Updated By: NS05229
Restricted: No
Label: Eligibility
Office: CPC-Ottawa
Text: Officer's Review*** FOSS: NAI Marital Status: Single, never married; no spouse/CLP or children declared. Eligibility: Having reviewed the education, employment and financial documents, I am satisfied that the PA meets the requiements of R75 & R76 - Passed No indicators of A35 or A37 concerns- Criminality Passed Meds passed RPRF Paid Approved

Notes 5 is same as initially posted. Its a long read (and took some time to type out) but i hope the information here is able to provide a clearer picture of the application process to others. I wish us all success with our applications!"
 

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lazybone said:
from what I have read...it may mean groups:0 assessment not started groups:1 assessment passed....sometimes people say it is groups:0 assessment not reqd groups:1 assessment required... people who have written about these are themselves confused as to what it exactly means
in either case, it does not mean anything 'bad'..
security as a whole is difficult to comprehend from notes, because most of the information is blanked out...its very difficult to decipher what exactly they are doing...
I believe you are pretty close to getting PPR as you must be from Feb thread(don't remember exactly)...so I am quoting a OP called expressentryqueen for you...she was kind enough to order her notes and post on this thread for our reference...she ordered it the day (a few days prior) she got the PPR and on her notes...groups are 1...hope this helps! and I quote-

"As a follow-up to my initial post on my GCMS notes, i thought that it might benefit everyone if i shared my GCMS notes once my application was approved to give us a clearer picture of the application process. Each application may vary depending on the applicant's circumstances though. In my case, i'm a single person, graduated from a Canadian university's masters program, with about 3 years work experience from my country, so i was invited under the FSW category.

My BG check went into progess on June 18th and i got the RFV mail on the 20th. I then applied for the GCMS notes that same day but it was not printed until June 28th, the same day that MyCIC changed to Approved. On the First page of the GCMS notes, it looks like this:

Updated Date: 2016/06/29 02:34:17
Updated by: VL16301
Primary Office: CPC-Ottawa
Secondary Office: Centralized Intake Office
App Status: Closed
App Status Reason: Approved

Assessments
Eligibility: Passed
Security:
HIRV:
Criminality: Passed
Org Crime:
Medical: Passed
Other Reqs:
Final: Approved

Client Details

Created Date: 2013/06/0919:00:47
Created By: EAIEAPP
Updated Date: 2016/06/29 02:34:19
Updated By: VL16301
Client/Party: PA
Counterfoil Required: Yes
Security:
HIRV:
Criminality: Passed
Org Crime:
Medical: Passed
Searched By: NS05229
Searched Date: 2016/06/19 3:00:52

EE ELIGIBILITY
ASSESSMENT:1
Type: Candidate Assessment
Status: Passed-Candidate
Status Updated Date:2016/01/15
Status Updated by EAIEAPP
CEC MEC: Not Met
MST MEC: Not Met
FSW MEC: Not Met
CRS Score: 473
PNP MEC: Not Met

Funds:
Number of Family Members: 1
Minimum Funds: Met
MST Funds Exempt: N
FSW Funds Exempt: N

Finalize Application
Document Issuance: 1
Created Date: 2016/06/1903:08:32
Created By: NS05229
Updated Date: 2016/06/29 04:08:25
Updated by US8315
Document #:
Document: Counterfoil
Status: Authorized
Valid to: 2017/01/03
Name:
DOB:
Print Queue:
Status Updated by: VL16301
Status Updated Date: 2016/06/28 09:34:16
Via: ExpressPost
Via Details:
Group #:
Assigned to: RC-9515
Assigned by: NS05229
Due Date: 2016/06/18
Printed by: VL16301
Printed Date: 2016/06/27
Confirmed By:
Confirmation Date:
Sent By: US8315
Sent Date: 2016/06/28

Counterfoil
Created Date: 2016/06/19 03:08:32
Created By: NS05229
Updated Date: 2016/06/29 04:08:25
Updated By: US8315
UCI:
Document#:
Family Name:
Given Name:
DOB:
# of Entries: ONE
Issued at CPC-Ottawa
Date of Issue: 2016/06/23
Valid to 2017/01/03
Subcategory: IM-1

Document Issuance: 2
Created Date: 2016/06/19 03:08:31
Created By: NS05229
Updated Date: 2016/06/29 04:08:25
Updated by US8315
Document #:
Document: COPR/CRP
Status: Authorized
Valid to: 2017/01/03
Serial #:
Name:
DOB:
Print Queue:
Status Updated by: JS5367
Status Updated Date: 2016/06/23 22:37:39
Via: ExpressPost
Via Details:
Group #:
Assigned to: RC-9515
Assigned by: NS05229
Due Date: 2016/06/18
Printed by: JS5367
Printed Date: 2016/06/23
Confirmed By:
Confirmation Date:
Sent By: US8315
Sent Date: 2016/06/28

Events:
Groups: 1
Created Date: 2016/06/24 15:46:26
Created By: JS5367
Updated Date: 2016/06/24 15:47:34
Updated By: JS537
Primary: No
Group #
Name: COPR Visa
Type: Batch Notes
Other Type Description:
Status: In Progress
Create Office: CPC-Ottawa

Application:1
Field Name: Secondary Office
Action: Added
Old Value:
New Value: Saskatoon CIC
Updated Date: 2016/06/19
Updated by NS05229
Office: CPC-Ottawa

Application: 2
Field Name: Final
Action: Updated
Old Value:
New Value: Approved
Updated Date: 2016/06/19
Updated by NS05229
Office: CPC-Ottawa

Application: 3
Field Name: Security
Action: Updated
Old Value: Not Started

Application: 4
Field Name: Eligibility
Action: Updated
Old Value:Met
New Value: Passed
Updated Date: 2016/06/19
Updated by NS05229
Office: CPC-Ottawa

Application: 5
Field Name: Secondary Office
Action: Removed
Old Value:CPC-Ottawa
New Value:
Updated Date: 2016/02/23
Updated by JR01169
Office: Centralized Intake Office

Activity: 1
UCI:
Name:
Sub-Activity/Activity Type: Security
Field Name: Status

Activity: 2
UCI:
Name:
Sub-Activity/Activity Type: Selection-EE Econ
Field Name: Status
New Value: Passed
Updated Date: 2016/06/19
Updated By: NS05229
Office: CPC-Ottawa

Activity: 3
UCI:
Name:
Sub-Activity/Activity Type: 11.2-EE MI
Field Name: Status
New Value: Met
Updated Date: 2016/02/02
Updated By: GM01154
Office: Centralised Intake Office

Finally, the Notes Smiley Smiley

Notes: 1
Created Date: 2016/06/24:15:47:42
Created By: JS5367
Updated Date: 2016/06/24 15:47:42
Updated By: JS5367
Restricted: No
Label: General
Office: CPC-Ottawa
Text: Original PPTs and Authorized COPRs Moved to Visa Printing Room for visa print

Notes: 2
Created Date: 2016/06/24:15:39:52
Created By: JS5367
Updated Date: 2016/06/24 15:39:52
Updated By: JS5367
Restricted: No
Label: General
Office: CPC-Ottawa
Text: Original PPTs and Authorized COPRs Moved to Visa Printing Room for visa print

Notes: 3
Created Date: 2016/06/21 07:15:57
Created By: AS14560
Updated Date: 2016/06/21 07:15:57
Updated By: AS14560
Restricted: No
Label: General
Office: CPC-Ottawa
Text: CPC-O RFV letter sent via email in a batch. No correspondence was generated as letter was sent via MS Word Letter template.

Notes: 4
Created Date: 2016/06/19 03:07:14
Created By: NS05229
Updated Date: 2016/06/19 03:07:14
Updated By: NS05229
Restricted: No
Label: Eligibility
Office: CPC-Ottawa
Text: Officer's Review*** FOSS: NAI Marital Status: Single, never married; no spouse/CLP or children declared. Eligibility: Having reviewed the education, employment and financial documents, I am satisfied that the PA meets the requiements of R75 & R76 - Passed No indicators of A35 or A37 concerns- Criminality Passed Meds passed RPRF Paid Approved

Notes 5 is same as initially posted. Its a long read (and took some time to type out) but i hope the information here is able to provide a clearer picture of the application process to others. I wish us all success with our applications!"
Thank you lazybone. I was worried for a bit.

Just ordered my second set of GCMS notes a day ago. In the first one I could see R10 Ok and A11.2 met, with case analyst, assistant and agent reviews.

I am from March AOR, by the way. :)
 

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Can someone please help me to understand myGCMS notes

Eligibility says recommended passed

How it is different from passed or Met??

is there something wrong that need to be reviewed again?
 

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Preet_S said:
Can someone please help me to understand myGCMS notes

Eligibility says recommended passed

How it is different from passed or Met??

is there something wrong that need to be reviewed again?
I think you are good. Recommended passed, if I am not wrong, is a status set to a lower rank person (case analyst or assistant). Final "Passed" is set by an Officer...

But, really I don't think it matters. Passed, met, recommended passed, either way is always good.
 

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Thank you

I think you are right because last notes provided detailed description with A11.2 appear to be Meet and additional notes saying RPRF fees to be requested.

Thank you once again.
 

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Preet_S said:
Thank you

I think you are right because last notes provided detailed description with A11.2 appear to be Meet and additional notes saying RPRF fees to be requested.

Thank you once again.
passed/recommend passed/appears to meet/appears met, etc- means-MET
A11.2 analyst recommendation has to do with eligibility...if they have requested for RPRF then im confident that you have most 'likely' met eligibility...check your last ten activities...if you see EE ECON passed...then you have met eligibility...that's the only way to be perfectly sure...
Additionally check if your criminality or R10 and medicals is passed or not(it should be)
only one last check if those are all met, and that is security- it takes anything between a month or two for it to go thru

hope that helps!
 

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Activity 1 Selection EE-Con is also recommended Passed.

I am CEC applicant i see in the notes case Analyst pointed out No T4 or paystubs provided. But reference letter has been verified and meet there requirements.

Should i submit my T4 at this point now i have all docs it was not required thats why i did'nt submit ?