H&C Humanitarian Ground with/or Without Failed refugee claim

[burgundaire]

That is so ridiculous. Its very difficult to prove a negative… Its like asking me to show proof that there isnt a white whale in a pool of water buried under my home.
However, do you have a bank account in your name? I would think you could show bank statements or get some letters from family members stating that they have bEen supporting your basic needs and donot receive social assistance?

Thank you! yes I do have a bank account in my name. I may attach the benefits page from cra that shows nothing lol. I've also been able to get a letter of support from my mother .

 

[Deleted member 1294351]

Thank you! yes I do have a bank account in my name. I may attach the benefits page from cra that shows nothing lol. I've also been able to get a letter of support from my mother .

Social assistance isnt exactly Federal support. A lot of the programs full under provincial jurisdiction and can cover anything from health care to food… Thats why this is such a ridiculous request. There are so many programs, how can one (you) empirically prove that you are NOT on social assistance?? Ridiculous.

 

[Deleted member 1294351]

alright but you tell me what happens if asylum system was not fairly treat those countries you indicated !!!!!

You are all incorrect. Its for individual cases with compelling and extraordinary circumstances.

 

[wiener]

You are all incorrect. Its for individual cases with compelling and extraordinary circumstances.

I agree with Canuck. If you look at refugee claim statistics from RPD, you will clearly see high approval rate for all unstable and war torn countries, and rarely if any refusal. This is unlike H and C which is not guaranteed and largely depend on the officer.

 

[canuck78]

alright but you tell me what happens if asylum system was not fairly treat those countries you indicated !!!!!

Yet another account. Appreciate the week break with no new accounts. Blocked.

 

[canuck78]

Social assistance isnt exactly Federal support. A lot of the programs full under provincial jurisdiction and can cover anything from health care to food… Thats why this is such a ridiculous request. There are so many programs, how can one (you) empirically prove that you are NOT on social assistance?? Ridiculous.

Social assistance is very specific and is essentially welfare not other programs.

 

[canuck78]

Hi everyone, I just got my AIP two days ago and they asked me to submit proof that I am not on social assistance. Has anyone else sent something for this? what proof did you submit? for context, my work permit expired in the middle of this long waiting game so I haven't been working but I have savings and live with family members. All this info was in my initial application which is why they asked. Any info you can give about what to write to show I am self-supporting even though I'm not working would be appreciated.

Include proof of savings, explain that you have been living with family so have been able to reduce costs, explain that your WP expired and that is the only reason you stopped working, include proof of previous employment in Canada and the ability to financially support yourself when you had a valid WP, include proof of applying for a new WP and your plan to seek employment or any employment you have secured that you will start once the WP is approved and finally once employed after you receive your WP update your file with proof of employment details.

 

[canuck78]

The LMIA requirements regarding unemployment for census metropolitan areas is a joke. As soon as there are workers that become PRs, the employers are right away contacting their immigration agencies for more TFWs. I have spoken to some TFWs at certain restaurants and they told me that they are awaiting 4 more TFWs to arrive from the philippines already instead of hiring workers that are already in Canada, regardless of status. Such a joke.

The TFW issue is another issue altogether and problematic especially in certain regions and sectors. The issue of higher unemployment rates, especially amongst younger people, is a serious issue that does need to factor into immigration. Sadly many of these recent TFWs will not have a pathway to PR either.

 

[Deleted member 1294351]

I have a question about stage 1 and stage 2... Is the background check done in stage 1 or stage 2? Because all the sources that I read say the background check is done in stage 2 after the officer determines the applicant is eligible and receives stage 1 positive.
However, whenever I call in, the automated system says "We are determining your eligibility" and "We are processing your background check." "We do not need your fingerprints, you do not need a medical".

 

[wiener]

I have a question about stage 1 and stage 2... Is the background check done in stage 1 or stage 2? Because all the sources that I read say the background check is done in stage 2 after the officer determines the applicant is eligible and receives stage 1 positive.
However, whenever I call in, the automated system says "We are determining your eligibility" and "We are processing your background check." "We do not need your fingerprints, you do not need a medical".

This automated message is when application is assigned to officer, you will have stage 1 results soon.

 

[Deleted member 1294351]

This automated message is when application is assigned to officer, you will have stage 1 results soon.

You think so? It was only submitted in January of this year, best interest of child and hardship if separated from family/return to country of origin. I dont see how it can be so close.

 

[canuck78]

You think so? It was only submitted in January of this year, best interest of child and hardship if separated from family/return to country of origin. I dont see how it can be so close.

Your minor child? Do they live with you? How long have been in Canada? Visiting?

 

[wiener]

You think so? It was only submitted in January of this year, best interest of child and hardship if separated from family/return to country of origin. I dont see how it can be so close.

If automated phone system says we are reviewing eligibility and we do not need your fingerprint, this is standard message. Once message changes to we are processing your background check, it means application is assigned to officer and you will have stage 1 decision withtin 1-3 months usually.

 

[wiener]

that is completely incorrect, you know why ? because this is standard message i had same status update over the phone from the first moth of the application been received and provided biometrics, guess what how soon/how close i got stage 1 results ? you know after how long from hearing the same message you mentioned i got decision over 17 months and the result was REFUSED trust me ! application assigned to the officer usually three month before you get the results

Well, let us see if I am correct or not. He can order GCMS notes to confirm what I have said.

 

[God's own 269]

Hi team. How is everyone doing. Please I have a question about this H&C process. I have a friend who is a Single mother from India. The father of the child is not owning up to any responsibility. He is also an immigrant from Srilanka but is an undergrad student. The problem is that she got pregnant and could not finish school. Thereby losing her work permit. After giving birth, she decided to go back to school but was told that she has to leave Canada in order to apply for study permit since her previous permit is expired. Her family in India has abandoned her and dont want to see her again because she has a child outside wedlock. She has no place to go. Can she apply for H&C without having to apply for refugee??

She wants to apply for H&C. Her child is a girl child and she feels that both she and her baby girl will face so much hardship in India as a single mom. She feels that her baby will will not be accepted by the society. What is the probability of success?

2. If she fails with the H&C, can she still apply for refugee.

Note: She is completely out of status.