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halfcents101

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Hello

i hope everyone is fine . after 6 months of receiving my citizenship i returned to my country of origin . actually i had a work accident 2 years ago while a refugee i didnt have a family doctor nor i reported it to employer.
basically i didn’t want to jeopardize my status and return to my country . also private clinics are too expensive for me
i spent a total of 8 years after being granted citizenship now i returned since 4 months i i am receiving cheap health care even though i would not recover 100% . would that be an issue if i stay 5 or 6 months
my refugee claim was not based on political matter also there is no war in my country.
it is related to my sexual orientation and it was genuine . now with dual citizenship my country of origin would never screw with canada in the worst scenario and lgbtq foreigners and even dual citizens enjoy more freedom although i am discreet and masc looking
another point i came with my canadian passport i never renewed nor used my passport of homeland since .

is staying extended periods would be fine or i am still considered refugee and never have to return definitively

any insight is welcome

thanks
 

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Hello

i hope everyone is fine . after 6 months of receiving my citizenship i returned to my country of origin . actually i had a work accident 2 years ago while a refugee i didnt have a family doctor nor i reported it to employer.
basically i didn’t want to jeopardize my status and return to my country . also private clinics are too expensive for me
i spent a total of 8 years after being granted citizenship now i returned since 4 months i i am receiving cheap health care even though i would not recover 100% . would that be an issue if i stay 5 or 6 months
my refugee claim was not based on political matter also there is no war in my country.
it is related to my sexual orientation and it was genuine . now with dual citizenship my country of origin would never screw with canada in the worst scenario and lgbtq foreigners and even dual citizens enjoy more freedom although i am discreet and masc looking
another point i came with my canadian passport i never renewed nor used my passport of homeland since .

is staying extended periods would be fine or i am still considered refugee and never have to return definitively

any insight is welcome

thanks
You are fine to stay in your home county as long as you want to.
 

halfcents101

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Nov 23, 2024
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You are fine, you can even renew your home country passport if you want.
thank you. it was kind of misleading when i read on another thread some warned against returning especially for extended periods of time which is my case and another member said it would trigger an investigation although i do not mine it as long as i get called for an interview in the court to prove my case i have all the strong evidences that during these years i continue to be gay which is the base of my claim basis .
 

scylla

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thank you. it was kind of misleading when i read on another thread some warned against returning especially for extended periods of time which is my case and another member said it would trigger an investigation although i do not mine it as long as i get called for an interview in the court to prove my case i have all the strong evidences that during these years i continue to be gay which is the base of my claim basis .
There is no issue on Canada's end. The only potential issue is if you run into any problems in your home county, Canada may not be able to help you since you are a dual passport holder.
 

halfcents101

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There is no issue on Canada's end. The only potential issue is if you run into any problems in your home county, Canada may not be able to help you since you are a dual passport holder.
thanks for your kind answer . i have one question my friend if you dont mind . i want to pass my driving licence it is easier to get here and in order to enroll in a school
i need to renew my id
is that considered reavailrment also receiving a driving licence here is considered reavailment

for instance when i go to doctors they ask for national id . it is required for almost everything

does it pose a problem.
thanks for your time and answers.
 

davenportdiamond

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thanks for your kind answer . i have one question my friend if you dont mind . i want to pass my driving licence it is easier to get here and in order to enroll in a school
i need to renew my id
is that considered reavailrment also receiving a driving licence here is considered reavailment

for instance when i go to doctors they ask for national id . it is required for almost everything

does it pose a problem.
thanks for your time and answers.
You're not subject to the reavailment provisions since you're a citizen now.

I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.
 

lavocado917

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Feb 20, 2024
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i think you are fine to return but i am not sure about renewal of national id and other national documents like passport .
only scylla and other knowledge members can reply
 
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canuck78

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thank you. it was kind of misleading when i read on another thread some warned against returning especially for extended periods of time which is my case and another member said it would trigger an investigation although i do not mine it as long as i get called for an interview in the court to prove my case i have all the strong evidences that during these years i continue to be gay which is the base of my claim basis .
It’s legal but there is also significant anti-immigrant/refugee sentiment building in Canada so I would also suggest caution when essentially moving back to your home country soon after citizenship. The optics are not good. We are also going to get a more conservative government relatively soon who may want to make examples of previous protected people who were able to move to their home country soon after receiving citizenship. What you are doing is legal but it would be a minor nightmare if the government ever wanted to question the basis of your asylum claim and why you were now safe to live in your home country. There is almost no chance that this would happen at the moment but that doesn’t mean that it will never happen. The asylum system was not created to allow people to return to live in their home countries once they had a Canadian passport. Canada is spending a small fortune on processing and supporting asylum seekers and refugees with the expectation that most will eventually become productive residents/citizens and contribute to Canada. Would suggest you keep records of your medical care abroad and proof that you were struggling to secure care in Canada so if ever questioned you have proof of why you had to move out of Canada temporarily.
 
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lavocado917

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It’s legal but there is also significant anti-immigrant/refugee sentiment building in Canada so I would also suggest caution when essentially moving back to your home country soon after citizenship. The optics are not good. We are also going to get a more conservative government relatively soon who may want to make examples of previous protected people who were able to move to their home country soon after receiving citizenship. What you are doing is legal but it would be a minor nightmare if the government ever wanted to question the basis of your asylum claim and why you were now safe to live in your home country. There is almost no chance that this would happen at the moment but that doesn’t mean that it will never happen. The asylum system was not created to allow people to return to live in their home countries once they had a Canadian passport. Canada is spending a small fortune on processing and supporting asylum seekers and refugees with the expectation that most will eventually become productive residents/citizens and contribute to Canada. Would suggest you keep records of your medical care abroad and proof that you were struggling to secure care in Canada so if ever questioned you have proof of why you had to move out of Canada temporarily.
that is a wise advice however in my opinion a refugee who turn citizens should be equal to all citizens. after several years things change .
also the op suggests he is gay so that is totally different from a political one . political fear most and foremost the gov . sometimes gay people fear the inhabitants of that country or a small group of people and it is highly likely he wil not be recognized . then why would he be in trouble for that?
people need to come back for inheritance , administrative stuff too. is my personal opinion
there are different steam of refugees and each one is a different story but lets not mix political with other such as lgbt , religious , humanitarian, h&c etc

even if laws change they would not go after former refugee who got naturalized. logically after you are citizens there is no restriction, a passport is not an RTD it is not mentioned you cant go to your country of origin
those who will be affected are the upcoming ones and this is in case the laws change

best regards to you
 
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lavocado917

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It’s legal but there is also significant anti-immigrant/refugee sentiment building in Canada so I would also suggest caution when essentially moving back to your home country soon after citizenship. The optics are not good. We are also going to get a more conservative government relatively soon who may want to make examples of previous protected people who were able to move to their home country soon after receiving citizenship. What you are doing is legal but it would be a minor nightmare if the government ever wanted to question the basis of your asylum claim and why you were now safe to live in your home country. There is almost no chance that this would happen at the moment but that doesn’t mean that it will never happen. The asylum system was not created to allow people to return to live in their home countries once they had a Canadian passport. Canada is spending a small fortune on processing and supporting asylum seekers and refugees with the expectation that most will eventually become productive residents/citizens and contribute to Canada. Would suggest you keep records of your medical care abroad and proof that you were struggling to secure care in Canada so if ever questioned you have proof of why you had to move out of Canada temporarily.
that’s my point of view
 

canuck78

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that is a wise advice however in my opinion a refugee who turn citizens should be equal to all citizens. after several years things change .
also the op suggests he is gay so that is totally different from a political one . political fear most and foremost the gov . sometimes gay people fear the inhabitants of that country or a small group of people and it is highly likely he wil not be recognized . then why would he be in trouble for that?
people need to come back for inheritance , administrative stuff too. is my personal opinion
there are different steam of refugees and each one is a different story but lets not mix political with other such as lgbt , religious , humanitarian, h&c etc

even if laws change they would not go after former refugee who got naturalized. logically after you are citizens there is no restriction, a passport is not an RTD it is not mentioned you cant go to your country of origin
those who will be affected are the upcoming ones and this is in case the laws change

best regards to you
Nobody is questioning whether people can visit their home country. OP is essentially moving to their home country. Being persecuted because you are gay does not change if you have a Canadian passport especially if you will likely be treated as a citizen by your home country. It may help slightly but does not change risk factors of being part of the LGBtQIA+ in the general population outside mostly tourist/expat communities. All asylum seekers and refugees share the same requirement of proof that they are unsafe living in their home country. I don’t think people are paying attention to geopolitics and the almost worldwide pushback against refugees and asylum seekers and the measures being put in by governments. Most of the world is swinging to the right and becoming more populist and as economies face more headwinds this will likely get worse. The goal of the asylum system is resettlement longterm in a country which is why we invest so much in asylum seekers and refugees upfront. Examples of asylum seekers leaving Canada permanently or for an extended period of time soon after getting Canadian citizenship will likely have such negative impacts on genuine asylum seekers who may never even be able to visit their home country.

Would add that governments could go after previous protected people or refugees or at least try if they misrepresented their need for protection in their home country. There have been cases of Canadian citizens who were found to have misrepresented something in their original asylum claim and the government has gone after their status in Canada.

Getting Canadian citizenship and being offered protection by a country is something sought after by 100M+ people at the moment. Why anyone would put that status at risk (even if a minor risk at the moment) or risk someone questioning if they were ever a genuine asylum seeker boggles my mind. I can’t imagine the outrage and pushback if people were already anti-asylum seeker/refugee. Sadly there are more and more of those people in Canada which asylum seekers, protected people and refugees even after citizenship need to be aware of.
 
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Hello

i hope everyone is fine . after 6 months of receiving my citizenship i returned to my country of origin . actually i had a work accident 2 years ago while a refugee i didnt have a family doctor nor i reported it to employer.
basically i didn’t want to jeopardize my status and return to my country . also private clinics are too expensive for me
i spent a total of 8 years after being granted citizenship now i returned since 4 months i i am receiving cheap health care even though i would not recover 100% . would that be an issue if i stay 5 or 6 months
my refugee claim was not based on political matter also there is no war in my country.
it is related to my sexual orientation and it was genuine . now with dual citizenship my country of origin would never screw with canada in the worst scenario and lgbtq foreigners and even dual citizens enjoy more freedom although i am discreet and masc looking
another point i came with my canadian passport i never renewed nor used my passport of homeland since .

is staying extended periods would be fine or i am still considered refugee and never have to return definitively

any insight is welcome

thanks
I am more concern with your safety.

it is related to my sexual orientation and it was genuine . now with dual citizenship my country of origin would never screw with canada in the worst scenario and lgbtq foreigners and even dual citizens enjoy more freedom although i am discreet and masc looking
This is a wrong assumption. How would someone on the street know your Canadian citizenship? If the country wasn't safe for LGBTQ+, it's usually not just the government.
You are not a foreigner and only so much the Canadian Ambassy can do if something happen to you. And if they can do anything at all, it may be too late.
 
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