Refused 3 Times for Visitor Visa for my mother - TRV

[canuck78]

as far as i know since your parents is retired and pensioners, ircc/cic doesn't need much docs from them .. they will fall under super visa, most required docs will be coming from the sponsor like T4/Bank statement/EC/Med insurance.

my mom got refusal last march, reapplying again

by the way does anyone know the EI docs need to submit for the application

You have to specify that you want to apply for a supervisa and many only want a TRV. It is still very important for the parent to provide documentation, especially if apply for a. tRV, like proof of funds, ties to their home country, etc.

 

[mqjavier4]

The size restriction as far as I know is 4MB not 2MB, please check again. If you are bit clever and creative you can add all your documents into a single pdf without going over the size limit. One of my friends managed to create a 51 Page PDF document as a Letter of Explanation for their Study Visa (2nd attempt), and I am not joking I have seen the doc, it has a mix of ~10 pages of detailed explanation and the rest are all images including bank statements, all educational semester-wise transcripts, educational certificates, GRE score card, WES report, IELTS, all work experience letters, pay stubs etc.

Some tips below.

1. Decrease the size of all images using MS Paint . If you already have a pdf doc with the images and the pdf size is still big, take a screenshot/s (print screen) copy the image/s to MS Paint and resize the image/s and copy this image/s to MS Word and save as a new pdf, that should reduce the size by a bit.

2. Use PDFsam to merge, cut, join, split different PDF files. IF the files you have are in JPEG format then do the MS WORD conversion above to convert to a PDF file.

3. You can also use FOX PDF (Trail Version - valid for 15 days free), to resize the PDF by adjusting the DPI, experiment to see which dpi offers the lowest size while preserving image quality to the extent it remains legible to the Visa officer.

4. If the file size is still bigger than 4MB, then you can do one other thing. Move all Financial Documents into the Funds section (attach as one document), now in your Letter of Explanation, in the funds section page you can say "please refer to the Funds section for financial docs/proofs (you can type this in MS Word, covert to PDF and add this as a page, this should hardly take up any space).

Hi: The new IRCC portal the limit is only 2MB maybe you’re referring to GC key which has 4MB file. Thank you for giving info. I tried to edit my docs using my iphone and reduce the size then convert it into one single PDF docs. Thank you for helping me

 

[steaky]

Question guys. I’m reapplying my mom again this time after she had 3 refusal for TRV, but this time can I focus on providing the documents they need from the refusal letter? Bc if I will put all the documents of mine like my bank, payslip, my PR card, birth Certificate as well as my husband, bc both of us are the inviter, the file was too big. It only allows 2MB and I couldn’t reduce it I’m having trouble please help. Thank you for answering.

It's your mother who is being invited, can you not left your husband out? You being the only inviter? Also, paper applications no longer an option?

Edit: As seen in the previous refusals, two inviters had no better chances to get approval than one. So why don't you invite your mother alone this time? 2MB would probably be enough if you are the only person who is inviting your mother.

 

[Hummingbird89]

Did you do the super visa?

 

[Mgillanders]

Well, I hope it works for nanay mo. Our own experience suggests they are into high volume processing mode, but with even less leniency. When we applied this last time, I had been in the Phils with my wife all winter, her PR application, submitted while I was there, was 4 months along, with sponsor approval, medical exam passed, her several police certificates obtained and plenty of evidence that we just wanted her here for a summer visit. We provided evidence that we would spend next winter again in the Phils. All wasted. I am sure they never read any of it. Just automatic deny.

We will probably end up living in the Phils, as I have in the past. I want to become a non-resident of Canada for tax purposes. Last year, I paid over $400,000 in income tax to a country that treats me and my wife like shit. They (in effect) call us liars, saying she would not respect any temporary visa, and would prefer to live the rest of her days here illegally. What utter nonsense. Now, we are forced to go the tiresome PR route, just so she can visit Canada once for a couple of months.

Good luck.

Nothing surprises me about that office !

 

[Mgillanders]

It's your mother who is being invited, can you not left your husband out? You being the only inviter? Also, paper applications no longer an option?

Edit: As seen in the previous refusals, two inviters had no better chances to get approval than one. So why don't you invite your mother alone this time? 2MB would probably be enough if you are the only person who is inviting your mother.

Did you ever get it?

 

[mqjavier4]

Nothing surprises me about that office !

Thank you. My mom was approved May 21st after 11 days that I submit her application. Thanks to all your suggestion.

 

[Mgillanders]

Thank you. My mom was approved May 21st after 11 days that I submit her application. Thanks to all your suggestion.

Salamat po was it the shortened time that wirked?

 

[mqjavier4]

Did you ever get it?

My mom’s visit visa was approved. Thank you

 

[Mgillanders]

I cannot say why your mom was refused, but don't put a lot of hope in what will be revealed in the GCMS notes. We went through that more than 3 years ago when my wife was first denied a TRV from the Philippines. A wasted effort. The notes said nothing more than the boilerplate crap in the refusal letter.

True that the IRCC has stepped up the process. My wife's first deny (in January 2020) came 37 days post-application. Deny #2, in 2022, took 110 days to arrive. Deny #3 (in March 2023) came at lightning speed...only 2 days! Soon, they'll have it fine tuned so that TRV applications will be denied within 10 seconds of being submitted.

so did you ever get the trv?

 

[steaky]

Did you ever get it?

Both my in-laws got it became PR. TRV by paper application. I am co-inviter.

 

[Kaibigan]

so did you ever get the trv?

We had high hopes for our March 2023 application, since my wife's PR application had been in the works for 5 months already. Made no difference. That's why I suspect that the recent big announcement about TRVs for spouses is total b.s. Those that would have got one before will get one now, the rest of us will be told to pound sand. And now, with 3 strikes against us, we have probably put the PR application in jeopardy and certainly a 4th try would see my wife banned forever (even if they did not say that in words).

 

[canuck78]

We had high hopes for our March 2023 application, since my wife's PR application had been in the works for 5 months already. Made no difference. That's why I suspect that the recent big announcement about TRVs for spouses is total b.s. Those that would have got one before will get one now, the rest of us will be told to pound sand. And now, with 3 strikes against us, we have probably put the PR application in jeopardy and certainly a 4th try would see my wife banned forever (even if they did not say that in words).

There isn’t a 3 strike rule. I would reapply if you want but your spouse must be getting close to getting PR at this point. Is your spouse working? How much savings do they have that your haven’t transferred to them? Have they travelled internationally before and to where? What ties do they have to the Philippines? Are you currently in Canada? Are there any big warning signs when it comes to your relationship like large age difference for example? We have seen more spouses getting approved after the announcement but it is unclear what factors determine what spouses get denied.

 

[Salma.crs123]

Hi All:
I need help for my mom application to come and visit Canada.

I’m PR here in Canada for almost 4 yrs. Married, with 2 children. I applied my mom and stepdad visitor visa for 3 times (I used 1 gc key application and 2 new IRCC portal) all refused. They’re both seniors and retired, have enough financial proof to support their travel, they’re pensioners in the Philippines, they submit assets like house title, cars and motorcycles.

Invitees submit the following: (I’m the daughter)

- invitation letter including that my parents board and lodging, food and transportation will be shouldered by us
-our bank statement for 3 months from me(daughter and my husband son-in law)
-PR ids
-payslip for 3 months
- marriage certificate
- birth certificate

Here’s what happened: my stepdad will be excluded in this application since he passed away last January 13, 2023.

The reason for refusal on the third time was the IO is not satisfied that they will leave Canada at the end of their stay and also the other family ties is not cleared even I submit my 2 siblings birth certificate and coe that they are working and living in the Philippines.

I’m so anxious to apply for the fourth time because I don’t want my mom to get refuse again plus I really want her to come and visit here with us to suuport her emotionally for the recent passing of my stepdad

now here’s all the documents that I’m preparing, please let me know if I’m missing some documents that could possibly help her to get approval

Mom’s documents
Biometrics is done and good for 10yrs
Her renewed passport
-Bank certificate
-Stock holder certificate from the company that she work before
-insurance in the Philippines
-assets (house and car)
- birth cert and marriage cert
-stepdad death certificate
- travel history where some places that she went before
- recently nominated as senior president in her village (certification proof that she was newly elected)
-travel ticket shouldered by her


Invitees
- invitation letter stating that me and my husband was inviting her to come
- Me (daughter) birth certificate
- marriage certificate
- PR ID including drivers licensed
- bank statement for 3 months
- payslip 3 months
- deed of sale of my property
- deed of sale of my car
- medical insurance for my mom while she’s here in Canada in case she need medical assistance
- itinerary from our tour while my mom is here with us
Son-in law bank statement for 3 months, 3 months pasylip from his 2 jobs, PR ID, drivers licensed
- birth certificates of my children, PR IDs, school IDs


please help

Thank you so much for all who will comment in here.

Mj

Hi, Sorry to hear.

The way VO evaluates your file is whether a pensioner will be able to bear the expense of flight, health issues, etc, . Include a refundable flight ticket in the application. If possible include visitor health insurance coverage(refundable).
Your mother's finances like House, car titles, etc prove strong ties to country. Maybe provide checking account statements for the past 4 months for proof of funds.
Get the invitation letter notarized to make it legally binding. This way the VO will be somewhat convinced that you're indeed willing to bear the responsibility.
Both invitation letter and purpose of visit must be clear and strong. They must convey the intent of visit and return.
Since it's a visit visa, the VO will check the finances of mother. If it's supervisa, they will check your finances.

Did you ever apply for GCMS?

 

[mqjavier4]

Hi, Sorry to hear.

The way VO evaluates your file is whether a pensioner will be able to bear the expense of flight, health issues, etc, . Include a refundable flight ticket in the application. If possible include visitor health insurance coverage(refundable).
Your mother's finances like House, car titles, etc prove strong ties to country. Maybe provide checking account statements for the past 4 months for proof of funds.
Get the invitation letter notarized to make it legally binding. This way the VO will be somewhat convinced that you're indeed willing to bear the responsibility.
Both invitation letter and purpose of visit must be clear and strong. They must convey the intent of visit and return.
Since it's a visit visa, the VO will check the finances of mother. If it's supervisa, they will check your finances.

Did you ever apply for GCMS?

Thank you for your advice. My mom was already approved for 8 yrs. Thank you all for giving me idea. Goblesso