Parents & Grandparents Program(PGP) 2022

[Aryan2015]

Hello,

I am completing my mother's sponsorship application and am a little confused about how to fill her marital status in the application.

I am only planning to sponsor her and not my dad. Her ID document state that she is married however, she has been separated from my dad since 1995 with no ties whatsoever. So far I have her as "Separated" in all the applications. However, the Schedule A Declaration only has a "Legally Separated" option and I don't feel this is right. Should I have them all as separated and Schedule A as married, and attach a letter to explain the situation?

Finally, in the IMM 0008 I put that she doesn't have any dependents. Is that right, since my dad is separated from her and they have to ties together?

Any suggestions or feedback will be highly appreciated.

You can explain situation adding a letter and indicate he will not come to Canada with her but need to count as a family member for MNI purpose except last sentence of below paragraph.

Note: In the case of a principal applicant who is separated from their spouse, the principal applicant’s separated spouse is considered a “family member”, as per paragraph R1(3)(a) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations, since they are still legally married until they are divorced. However, it should be noted that there could be situations in which subparagraph R5(b)(ii), which details excluded relationships, applies to a foreign national (i.e. the principal applicant). A separated spouse of a foreign national must be counted for the calculation of the Minimum Necessary Income (MNI) unless the spouse has lived separate from the foreign national for at least one year and is the common-law partner of another person. For clarity, either the foreign national (i.e. the principal applicant) or their separated spouse may be the common-law partner of another person.

 

[scylla]

Does anyone knows what to do?

My father is here in Canada visiting us. It will be 6months on January 2023. He wants to stay more than 6months. If i’m not mistaken it need to apply to extend his visit for another 6months. Since, I applied his PGP 2022 PR application this week, is he implied to stay in Canada? Or do we still
Need to apply his visitor permit?

No, he doesn't have implied status because of the PGP application. Yes, you must apply separately to extend his stay.

 

[happyCanadian]

Hello All,

I received an invite for sponsoring my parents. I never required a birth certificate ever until now. My father was able to locate my birth certificate after about 30 years. But I just discovered my passport has a different place of birth than the actual birth certificate. They are two different cities in the same province. All my PR, COPR and Citizenship application carry the wrong place of birth. Being very honest gross negligence on my part ended up with a different city name in the passport and it never bothered me until now

Will this be an issue? or how should I over come this?

also my birth certificate was issued before my naming ceremony so it does not carry my name.

Thanks in advance

I do not know if your situation and ours are same. Here is our story, in my wife’s case the name of the city where she was born got changed. So her birth certificate, passport, our marriage certificate (so as inlaws’ marrige certificate) do not have the same name as her place of birth. We have used these documents, for my wife’s visitor visa application, her pr application (spousal sponsorship), our parents’ super/visitor visa and many more. To be on safe side we always note the change of city name on an explanation letter and we have never faced any issue so far. She was invited for pgp2022 and we are planning to do the same.

 

[mikegrandier]

No, he doesn't have implied status because of the PGP application. Yes, you must apply separately to extend his stay.

Thank you.

 

[canuck78]

You can explain situation adding a letter and indicate he will not come to Canada with her but need to count as a family member for MNI purpose except last sentence of below paragraph.

Note: In the case of a principal applicant who is separated from their spouse, the principal applicant’s separated spouse is considered a “family member”, as per paragraph R1(3)(a) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations, since they are still legally married until they are divorced. However, it should be noted that there could be situations in which subparagraph R5(b)(ii), which details excluded relationships, applies to a foreign national (i.e. the principal applicant). A separated spouse of a foreign national must be counted for the calculation of the Minimum Necessary Income (MNI) unless the spouse has lived separate from the foreign national for at least one year and is the common-law partner of another person. For clarity, either the foreign national (i.e. the principal applicant) or their separated spouse may be the common-law partner of another person.

The big issue is that they seem to be still filing documents as married. IRCC wants spouses to be included and do medicals because you could then sponsor a spouse after the fact without having to meet the excessive demand criteria. It would be much easier to include the spouse and put them as non-accompanting unless the separated spouse is in a common law relationship so easier to prove that they are truly separated. Proving that you have been living in separate homes, that you can’t reach a child, etc. can be difficult.

 

[canuck78]

Oh No! I already submitted the application of my father. My mother is deceased. I didn’t attach any explanation or her death certificate.

Would include the death certificate with your application. That should hopefully prevent delays.

 

[mikegrandier]

One more question. I saw one post here about the sending the passport of the sponsor and the applicant (patents). I don’t have valid passport at the moment. Still processing. I sent my citizenship certificate tho. Is that enough?

 

[mikegrandier]

Would include the death certificate with your application. That should hopefully prevent delays.

My bad , I submitted already the application. I can’t view the application after i submitted it at PR portal.

 

[canuck78]

My bad , I submitted already the application. I can’t view the application after i submitted it at PR portal.

After AOR you can send it in.

 

[kafepoche]

One more question. I saw one post here about the sending the passport of the sponsor and the applicant (patents). I don’t have valid passport at the moment. Still processing. I sent my citizenship certificate tho. Is that enough?

don't understand. Parent's passport is a requirement. But sponsor's id should match what s/he submitted in interest of sponsor. Did you submit citizen cert in the interest to sponsor?

 

[Aryan2015]

That's just a high level of nonsense and bs from IRCC. I didn't submit my interest in 2020 because I was lacking one year of proper earnings and decided to submit my interest in 2021 but because IRCC never opened this form I now missed 2020, 2021 and 2022 pools! WTF is that? I should have just lied back in 2020

IRCC never defined eligibility criteria to submit interest of expression form however they defined eligibility criteria for submitting application.

IRCC clearly mentioned in first sentence that, this is not an application.

It was just a lottery system. You don’t need any proof to buy a ticket however if you win and want to claim you need to submit all required proof.

You lost opportunity by yourself thinking that I can’t win and didn’t took a chance even to express your interest.

Unfortunately by using this trick IRCC successfully kept away flooding millions of interest to sponsor form otherwise it will be very difficult to judge how many applicants will be eligible even after getting ITA in draw system.

 

[canuck78]

IRCC never defined eligibility criteria to submit interest of expression form however they defined eligibility criteria for submitting application.

IRCC clearly mentioned in first sentence that, this is not an application.

It was just a lottery system. You don’t need any proof to buy a ticket however if you win and want to claim you need to submit all required proof.

You lost opportunity by yourself thinking that I can’t win and didn’t took a chance even to express your interest.

Unfortunately by using this trick IRCC successfully kept away flooding millions of interest to sponsor form otherwise it will be very difficult to judge how many applicants will be eligible even after getting ITA in draw system.

It did say on the EOI that you need to meet the eligibility criteria to submit an EOI which was meeting LICO for 2017, 2018 and 2019. The people who submitted applications who didn’t meet LICO were in the wrong.

 

[canuck78]

That's just a high level of nonsense and bs from IRCC. I didn't submit my interest in 2020 because I was lacking one year of proper earnings and decided to submit my interest in 2021 but because IRCC never opened this form I now missed 2020, 2021 and 2022 pools! WTF is that? I should have just lied back in 2020

Yes you and many others followed the rules. Hopefully IRCC will make sure people qualified to be in the 2020 pool. If people sued IRCC for not verifying that people qualified to be in the 2020 pool they would most likely win or even get a spot In exchange for signing an NDA like we earned during the FIFO debacle.

 

[Ruhi123]

Hi, can I keep my mother as pricipal applicant, though both are retired, however my dad gets pension and he is literate. I prefer my Mother as Principal, as her name is exactly same in her and my passport, but my Dad's name in his passport is Abdur and in my passport and school leaving and all my documents by mistake is says Abdul, I got OCI, My PR, My moms visit visa, citizenship and passport all with this one letter spelling difference, any suggestions for PGP application would be helpful.

 

[Aryan2015]

It did say on the EOI that you need to meet the eligibility criteria to submit an EOI which was meeting LICO for 2017, 2018 and 2019. The people who submitted applications who didn’t meet LICO were in the wrong.

That was not for EOI but to make ensure before submitting application only for 2020 intake so most people believed EOI and application is same thing and they didn’t submitted EOI. There is a huge difference between EOI and APPLICATION. Tell me simple fact that why IRCC still insist accessing 2019 to 2021 LICO rather than 2018 to 2021? In whole guide there is nothing mentioned about EOI but only the day before submitting applications.