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PRTD documents check list - supporting documents for residency obligation - while i was in Canada last 5 years

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I am outside Canada for 45days due to emergency trip and my PR card just expired. I was outside canada only 1month in my last 5years. Do i need to prove anything in my PRTD online application that i was in canada in my last 5years?

Also in Document checklist imm5644 "Copies of supporting documents that show you meet the residency obligation. See Residency obligation section of the Instruction Guide (IMM 5529)." Do i need to check this option? if yes what document i have to attach?

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For a PR card renewal, the PR would only need to provide supporting documents if the PR was outside of Canada for more than 1095. Since the PR card and PRTD applications are (now) combined, I would think this also applies to a PRTD applicant that shows having ~1780 days in Canada. It would seem that the travel history may be enough, but if they want/need docs, they may ask for them. Maybe?

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For a PR card renewal, the PR would only need to provide supporting documents if the PR was outside of Canada for more than 1095. Since the PR card and PRTD applications are (now) combined, I would think this also applies to a PRTD applicant that shows having ~1780 days in Canada. It would seem that the travel history may be enough, but if they want/need docs, they may ask for them. Maybe?

Best to wait for others to offer their opinion.
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I am outside Canada for 45days due to emergency trip and my PR card just expired. I was outside canada only 1month in my last 5years. Do i need to prove anything in my PRTD online application that i was in canada in my last 5years?

Also in Document checklist imm5644 "Copies of supporting documents that show you meet the residency obligation. See Residency obligation section of the Instruction Guide (IMM 5529)." Do i need to check this option? if yes what document i have to attach?

Thanks
Short answer: submit at least two documents, two "pieces of evidence," to show your residency in Canada; copy of something that shows your employment in Canada plus copy of bank statement showing your Canadian residential address should suffice. A copy of a utility bill for your residence in Canada, showing address and your name, could be one of the pieces of evidence. Assuming you submit two items, check the corresponding box in the checklist.

Note: given the extent to which you have been living in Canada, there should be no problems, should go easily . . . unless, of course, the Visa Office has some cause to be suspicious (which hardly seems likely).

Longer Explanation:

Follow the instructions for completing the form. You will need to provide address and work history for the past five years. You will need to detail the dates you left Canada and the date you returned to Canada. I am guessing you already understood this, but to be clear this is the basic information IRCC's visa office requires and relies on (unless there is reason to question it) in determining if the PR is in compliance with the Residency Obligation.

While the checklist is the same for a PR card application and a PR TD application, there are specific sections of the checklist specifically for PR card applications, and a separate section for PR TD applications. For a PR TD application, the PR is required to include:
-- copy of the PR's current and valid passport​
-- copies of all pages of all previous passports or travel document used in the preceding five years, and​
-- copies of supporting documents that show you meet the residency obligation​

Check the box if you are in fact submitting the requested documents. As you have noted, as to what to submit as "supporting documents that show you meet the residency obligation," the checklist references the further instructions set out in the appendix to the instruction guide.

It states:

You must provide copies of 2 pieces of evidence that can show residency in Canada in the five (5) years immediately before the application, such as:
  • employment records or pay stubs;
  • bank statements;
  • Canada Revenue Agency (CRA) Notice of Assessment for the five (5) years immediately before the application
  • evidence that you received benefits from Canadian government programs;
  • rental agreements;
  • club memberships;
  • or any other documents that prove you met your residency obligation.
So, you include two items that show your address in Canada, that is, "2 pieces of evidence that can show residency in Canada."

With a history in Canada that is well over four of the preceding five years, what will suffice should be fairly easy to meet. Bank statements can generally be downloaded online, so one of those should be easy to get. The other item could be a copy of your health care card or an auto insurance card (assuming it shows your Canadian address), or your drivers' license . . . something to show your address in Canada during the preceding five years.
 
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My bad for not catching that the OP was asking about PRTD, not PR card renewal. Hence my `opinion' was in fact bad information.

Now, completely unrelated to the OP's situation, but I can't help but wonder...

If Appendix A does not apply to PR that is in Canada, has not been outside of Canada for more than 1095...and is applying for a new PR card having provided travel info that they are declaring meeting, or exceeding 730 days in Canada, one could deduce that the exit/entry Travel History is really all that is needed for those PRs; no need to add anything in terms of supporting documents.

However...

What credence do most supporting documents really give? A PR's DL would show their address, but how does that guarantee that the PR was even in Canada? A DL is usually valid for 5 years, but that doesn't, in and of itself, guarantee that the person will remain in Canada for 5 years, right?

Same could be said for most of the other types of documents, even banking statements, especially if there is no activity shown other than online activity (i.e. no ATM withdrawals near their Canadian residential address, or anywhere in Canada).

Yes, I realize that I will be accused of `over analyzing', or hypothesizing, but because the only real evidence that would show that the PR was in fact IN Canada, in terms of meeting the R.O., would seem to be...travel history that CBSA has access to and shares with IRCC. Otherwise, why would Appendix A (supporting documents) not be a requirement for a PR card renewal inside Canada?
 
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